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Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom

by tchello_mesquita@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jan 31, 2008 at 07:00 AM

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Paul Dormer escreveu:
> In article
> <a5a014fb-43c0-4348-9d13-8af7f6191253@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> LBRatner@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Lee Ratner) wrote:
>
> >    Apparently there is a slice of fandom that is more than a little
> > anti-intellectual and really
> >  can't stand cultural analysis of fannish movies. If I have to guess
> > why, I'd say they do not
> > like what such analysis reveals about themselves.
> >
> >      Any other opinions/observations?
>
> Well, I've been reading academic criticism of SF and fantasy for well
> over thirty years.  I bought an academic book about Tolkien when I was
> at university in the early seventies.  (Tolkien and the Critics, 1968.
> I'm sure many physics students were reading Tolkien then, but I don't
> know how many were reading academic books about him.)
>
> Also, I've been involved with the Science Fiction Foundation for many
> years, which publishes a journal three times a year of academic stuff.
>
> The attitude I've found in general fandom is not that they don't like
> what the academics say about the fans but that the academics don't
> understand the tropes of the genre they are attempting to analyse, and
> get hold of the wrong end of the stick.
>
> I remember being involved in a fannish discussion of Babylon 5 a few
> years ago and I mentioned a book The Parliament of Dreams which was
> published by the Foundation and contained papers presented at an
> academic conference on Babylon 5.  This was dismissed, without having
> been read, as the usual mishmash of misunderstandings and the like.  Of
> course, I had to disagree. :-)
>
> I was rather pleased when the Cambridge Companion won the Hugo at
> Interaction back in 2005.  I know the editors, and Farah Mendlesohn was
> convinced they didn't have a chance of winning.  (As Hugo administrator
> that year, I had great trouble trying not to give the game away when I
> met the editors before the ceremony.)  When they accepted the award,
> Farah said something along the lines "Why did you vote this?  Don't you
> realise it's a text book?"
 




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Anti-intellectualism in fandom
Lee Ratner <LBRatner@[  2008-01-31 03:53:23 
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prd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-01-31 12:37:00 
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"Evelyn C. Leeper&qu  2008-01-31 09:43:23 
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tchello_mesquita@[EMAIL P  2008-01-31 06:58:55 
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tchello_mesquita@[EMAIL P  2008-01-31 07:00:57 
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tchello_mesquita@[EMAIL P  2008-01-31 07:02:01 
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"Martha Adams"   2008-02-02 03:28:13 
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Doug Wickstrom <nimshu  2008-02-11 20:02:07 
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Lee Ratner <LBRatner@[  2008-01-31 10:23:52 
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Andrew Plotkin <erkyra  2008-01-31 18:28:30 
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prd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-01-31 20:54:00 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-01 01:22:48 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-01 21:15:49 
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prd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-02-02 14:48:00 
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Kay Shapero <kay@[EMAI  2008-02-01 21:24:27 
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prd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-02-02 15:56:00 
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Petrea Mitchell <pravn  2008-02-03 18:33:27 
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mvp@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (M  2008-02-06 12:00:24 
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"pete-moss" <  2008-02-08 01:15:30 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-08 19:43:48 
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"pete-moss" <  2008-02-09 00:20:49 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-09 06:00:20 
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"Petre Moss" &l  2008-03-08 01:33:21 
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Tim Merrigan <tppm@[EM  2008-02-09 01:48:58 
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Daniel Silevitch <dmsi  2008-02-09 13:08:04 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-09 14:04:55 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-09 23:56:20 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-10 12:19:17 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-10 19:36:07 
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Doug Wickstrom <nimshu  2008-02-11 20:13:14 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-09 23:39:33 
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"Petre Moss" &l  2008-02-28 01:24:24 
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Will in New Haven <bil  2008-02-02 19:03:28 
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Lowell Gilbert <lgusen  2008-02-03 15:09:58 
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Will in New Haven <bil  2008-02-03 18:52:03 
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trinlay <trin1066@[EMA  2008-02-06 12:49:47 
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Tim Merrigan <tppm@[EM  2008-02-06 21:45:48 
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prd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-02-07 10:54:00 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-07 10:45:21 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-07 12:09:01 
Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-07 16:29:10 
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Tim Merrigan <tppm@[EM  2008-02-07 15:07:50 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-07 19:07:10 
Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-07 22:29:11 
Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom
Tim Merrigan <tppm@[EM  2008-02-08 03:56:55 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-09 23:41:04 
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winston@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-08 04:07:55 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-08 05:18:57 
Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom
"Per Chr. J." &  2008-02-07 15:44:18 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-07 22:11:56 
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goldfarb@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-08 22:40:44 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-09 23:42:49 
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goldfarb@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-10 08:04:33 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-10 06:16:15 
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Will in New Haven <bil  2008-02-10 11:50:31 
Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-10 12:21:47 
Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-10 16:49:40 
Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-10 22:39:25 
Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-10 21:46:31 
Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-10 20:34:53 
Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom
Doug Wickstrom <nimshu  2008-02-11 20:15:25 
Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom
Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-11 22:48:14 
Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom
Will in New Haven <bil  2008-02-10 12:53:27 
Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-10 14:03:21 
Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom
Daniel R. Reitman <dre  2008-02-10 18:32:03 
Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom
Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-10 21:53:27 
Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom
Will in New Haven <bil  2008-02-10 14:06:32 
Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-10 15:53:08 
Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom
"Pete.Moss" <  2008-02-11 18:57:14 

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