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by "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 3, 2008 at 05:00 PM

Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Keith F. Lynch <kfl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> That's sad.  You're letting the spammers win.

> How so?  I'm not responding to their bait.

You're letting the spammers cut us off from each other.  Their
intention may not be to shut down email between people who don't
already know each other, but it's the most obvious bad effect
of their actions.

> If I mailed them "LET ME ALONE" they'd say, "Wow, we have a
> live one!"

True.  I made the mistake of doing so, which is probably a large part
of why I get so many spams today.  Not because I thought it would get
me removed from spammers' lists as they claimed, but just so I could
honestly say I had tried, so as to emphasize the nature of spammers to
even the stupidest journalists and politicians.

I didn't want anyone saying, "You complain about spam, but you didn't
even *ask* the spammers to stop sending to you.  If you had, they
would have."

> And trying to re****t them is like trying to bail out the ocean
> with a spoon: they are, as you observe, too damn many of them.

True.  I re****ted all my spams for years, over 100,000 spams, stopping
only when I realized that I was spending *all* my free time doing so,
and that it was having no discernable effect.

> I don't have a whitelisting ability on trn.  I don't care.  What
> I do works for me.  What you do, I assume, works for you.

My point was that I can get email from people I "know" but don't
remember.  You, apparently, cannot.  That's not "working" if "working"
is defined as missing few if any non-spam emails that are sent to you.

> Perhaps you have many many more legitimate people who send you
> email, than I do.

The vast majority of people on my whitelist have never sent me email.
But they might, and I don't want to miss it if they do.

> For me, what works is to type "mail," to look at the list of sender
> ids and subject lines, and MAYBE to look at one or two, but mostly
> to type "d *" and "q".

I understand that bayesian filtering works well for people who get not
more than a few thousand spams per day.  You might look into that.
-- 
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html
before emailing me.
 




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Phisher tricks other phishers into doing the dirty work for him.
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-02 12:22:19 
Re: Phisher tricks other phishers into doing the dirty work for
Marty Helgesen <mnhcc@  2008-02-02 10:22:35 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-02 18:44:49 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-02 14:26:13 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-02 20:48:40 
Re: Phisher tricks other phishers into doing the dirty work for
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-02 16:43:02 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-02 23:06:47 
Re: Phisher tricks other phishers into doing the dirty work for
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-03 17:00:57 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-03 22:37:44 
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goldfarb@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-04 01:20:35 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-03 23:56:04 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-04 06:33:12 
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Tim Merrigan <tppm@[EM  2008-02-04 03:44:09 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-04 15:07:58 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-04 14:59:50 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-05 00:24:06 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-04 17:37:04 
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djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-05 02:07:48 
Re: Phisher tricks other phishers into doing the dirty work for
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-04 21:42:17 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-04 22:02:19 
Re: Phisher tricks other phishers into doing the dirty work for
rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-05 18:44:28 
Re: Phisher tricks other phishers into doing the dirty work for
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-04 23:12:19 
Re: Phisher tricks other phishers into doing the dirty work for
Nels Satterlund <NelsS  2008-02-04 20:58:54 
Re: Phisher tricks other phishers into doing the dirty work for
archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-04 14:53:12 
Re: Phisher tricks other phishers into doing the dirty work for
djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-05 00:25:16 
Re: Phisher tricks other phishers into doing the dirty work for
archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-04 17:43:04 
Re: Phisher tricks other phishers into doing the dirty work for
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-02 14:13:09 
Re: Phisher tricks other phishers into doing the dirty work for
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-02 16:13:18 
Re: Phisher tricks other phishers into doing the dirty work for
Wim Lewis <wiml@[EMAIL  2008-02-05 06:29:39 
Re: Phisher tricks other phishers into doing the dirty work for
Brett Paul Dunbar <bre  2008-02-06 14:27:13 
Re: Phisher tricks other phishers into doing the dirty work for
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-06 20:24:03 
Re: Phisher tricks other phishers into doing the dirty work for
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-07 02:53:16 

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