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Re: Anti-intellectualism in fandom

by Tim Merrigan <tppm@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 8, 2008 at 03:56 AM

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:29:11 -0800, David Friedman
<ddfr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>In article <2g3nq3p4bq07m24lkbdm4avmv0d2hva76h@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> Tim Merrigan <tppm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:09:01 -0800, David Friedman
>> <ddfr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> 
>> >In article <bk9mq3h63r2a9pdq3v73nsu2qj95ml9m4f@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>> > mike weber <fair****tfan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:49:47 -0800 (PST), trinlay
>> >> <trin1066@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> >IMHO it depends on the fan and the microfandom.  For example, At
>> >> >Wiscon every year there are academic papers on BUFFY and the
>> >> >Buffyverse presented and the Buffans eat them up.
>> >> 
>> >> Baker Street Irregulars, anyone?
>> >> 
>> >> ("Watson was a Woman", for instance.  I've often wondered if
>> >> W.S.Baring-Gould's contention that Nero Wolfe is the illegitimate
son
>> >> of Holmes and Irene Adler was some form of straight-faced high-brow
>> >> retaliation for that little joke of Stout's...)
>> >
>> >"Holmes" meaning Mycroft, I presume?
>> >
>> >Are you familiar with Sayers scholarly examination of the question of 
>> >Sherlock Holmes' university education?
>> 
>> No, Holmes meaning Sherlock.  After Richonbach falls, Holmes is nursed
>> back to health by Irene Adler and has an affaire with her from which
>> Nero Wolfe results.
>
>Interesting.
>
>We're talking about the same source, but obviously remembering it 
>differently, and I can't find my copy. According to Wikipedia:

Could be, I got it second hand from the Backer Street Irregular Scion
group I was a member of for a while, I didn't read the Baring-Gould
story myself.

>"In 1956, John D. Clark put forth a theory in the Baker Street Journal 
>that Wolfe was the offspring of an affair between Sherlock Holmes and 
>Irene Adler (a character from "A Scandal in Bohemia"). Clark suggested 
>that the two had had an affair in Montenegro in 1892, and that Nero 
>Wolfe was the result. The idea was later co-opted by William S. 
>Baring-Gould, but there is no evidence that Rex Stout had any such 
>connection in mind. Certainly there is no mention of it in any of the 
>stories (although a painting of Sherlock Holmes does hang over Archie 
>Goodwin's desk in Nero Wolfe's office). Some commentators, noting both 
>physical and psychological resemblances, suggest Sherlock's brother 
>Mycroft Holmes as a more likely father for Wolfe. "
>
>Which suggests that you are correct about what Baring-Gould wrote, but 
>that the idea wasn't originated by him and that my version has also been 
>proposed. It's possible that Baring-Gould mentions both.
-- 

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Lee Ratner <LBRatner@[  2008-01-31 03:53:23 
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"Martha Adams"   2008-02-02 03:28:13 
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Kay Shapero <kay@[EMAI  2008-02-01 21:24:27 
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Petrea Mitchell <pravn  2008-02-03 18:33:27 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-08 19:43:48 
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Tim Merrigan <tppm@[EM  2008-02-09 01:48:58 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-09 23:56:20 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-10 12:19:17 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-09 23:39:33 
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Will in New Haven <bil  2008-02-03 18:52:03 
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trinlay <trin1066@[EMA  2008-02-06 12:49:47 
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Tim Merrigan <tppm@[EM  2008-02-06 21:45:48 
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prd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-02-07 10:54:00 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-07 10:45:21 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-07 12:09:01 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-07 16:29:10 
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Tim Merrigan <tppm@[EM  2008-02-07 15:07:50 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-07 19:07:10 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-07 22:29:11 
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Tim Merrigan <tppm@[EM  2008-02-08 03:56:55 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-09 23:41:04 
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winston@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-08 04:07:55 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-07 22:11:56 
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goldfarb@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-08 22:40:44 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-09 23:42:49 
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Will in New Haven <bil  2008-02-10 11:50:31 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-10 12:21:47 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-10 16:49:40 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-10 22:39:25 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-10 20:34:53 
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Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-11 22:48:14 
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Will in New Haven <bil  2008-02-10 12:53:27 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-10 14:03:21 
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Daniel R. Reitman <dre  2008-02-10 18:32:03 
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Will in New Haven <bil  2008-02-10 14:06:32 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-10 15:53:08 
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