Paul Dormer wrote:
> In article <fpa2ot$79i$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, kfl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Keith F.
> Lynch) wrote:
>
>> Marcus L. Rowland <forgottenfutures@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> Keith F. Lynch <kfl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> Almost nobody in the US gets that much leave. Two weeks paid
>>>> vacation is typical. Some get three weeks. Many get no paid
>>>> vacation at all.
>>> Ouch. I'm on 33 days plus weekends and public holidays, a newcomer
>>> at my place starts on 23 days going up to 28 fairly quickly.
>> To clarify, you're in the UK, right?
>>
>> Nearly everyone in the US does get weekends off, or an equivalent
>> number of weekdays. There are, I think, ten federal holidays, and
>> most office workers get most or all of them off. There are also
>> various state holidays in various states. A fair percentage of
>> workers in Virginia get Lee/Jackson day off, as that's a state
>> holiday here.
>
> And to clarify a point that Marcus may or may not have been making,
> leave entitlement in the UK is given in days, not weeks. Therefore, 30
> days leave means six weeks, possibly more if there's a bank holiday
> involved. For instance, I often wanted to take off the last week in
> August and the first week in September, but the last Monday in August
> is a Bank Holiday in England and therefore meant taking only nine days
> leave.
>
> My company could actually force you to take two weeks holiday each year
> in the summer as part of the staff agreement. I can't remember how it
> was actually worded and whether taking only nine days with a bank
> holiday actually counted. I never heard of it being enforced, but at
> the end of my first summer working there, my boss did tactfully point
> out that I hadn't taken a proper holiday yet. However, I had already
> planned something for the end of September, so nothing further
> happened.
>
> Conversely, if you wanted to take more than two weeks holiday at a time,
> you had to get permission, but I did that a few times without problem.
>
> You could also carry over leave days if you didn't use your total
> entitlement in a year. Our leave year ran from 1st February to 31st
> January. (When I started, it was from April to March, but as that
> meant you could end up with two Easters or no Easters in a leave year,
> and people often wanted time off around Easter, they changed the start
> date.) If at the end of January, you hadn't used all your entitlement,
> the extra days were added to the next year's entitlement. (I think you
> needed permission if that was more than five days.)
>
We can carry up to 9 days forward each year, so if you haven't used
all your leave (happens - some sad gits don't seem to want to leave
the office <g>), your line manager may approach you in February or
March (new leave "year" starts in April) and /suggest strongly/ that
you take a holiday ;-)
By special arrangement you can carry forward more than your 9 days, if
agreed by your manager. Or you can work out a deal with HR for taking
a paid sabbatical at some time in the future - you take less leave
than you're entitled to and "bank" the days so that you can get paid
for a few months worth of time off.
> We actually had leave sheets. A leave sheet was a piece of A5 paper
> with your name and payroll number at the top, with your total leave
> entitlement for the year. Each time you wanted to take some leave, you
> filled in the dates and number of days involved (including half days,
> if you wanted) and got your manager to sign it.
>
Same in our place. I've got one day's leave left on my sheet, with a
month and a half to go before the new allocation. Plus up to 6 days
flexi-time leave (4 days per four week period), if I can be bothered
to "bank" enough hours.
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Jette Goldie
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