On Feb 18, 3:21=A0pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
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> "Jay E. Morris" <morr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On 18-Feb-2008, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
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> >> In Florida, if you apply for a concealed carry permit, if you
> >> have not criminal record, and are not currently a mental
> >> patient committed against your will, the powers that be are
> >> pretty much required to approve it. In short, virtually the
> >> entire adult population of Florida *can* carry concealed,
> >> legally, if they choose. Other states are nearly as liberal in
> >> their laws (Texas comes to mind). Given the publicity of the
> >> change in the law in
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> > Yes. =A0Start my concealed handgun license (CHL) class in two
> > weeks.
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> Required or not, it's a damned good idea. As is both safety and
> marksmanship training, as well as regular (and frequent) practice.
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> >> Florida (and the predictions of rivers of blood clogging up the
> >> storm drains), it's hard to imagine there are very many people
> >> in Florida would *like* to get a ccw permit, but don't know how
> >> easy it is.
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> >> But, in real life, they have something like 3% who choose to
> >> get the permit, and less who choose to carry at any given time.
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> > In Texas, I think what keeps the numbers down are the costs.
> > Anywhere from $90-125 for the class, then the cost for
> > fingerprinting, notary, range time, etc. =A0Then $140 for the
> > license itself. =A0So total cost could be close to $300.
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> Still, that's less than the cost of a decent quality pistol (and
> much less than the cost of a good one).
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> >> So, in the end, your question is nonsensical. A more productive
> >> question would be to ask about places where "a large fraction
> >> of the population *can* go around armed if they choose," and
> >> the answer is, there are plenty of places. Hell, Vermont
> >> doesn't even require a permit, last I heard. In Arizone,
> >> concealed carry is somewhat regulated, but open carry is a
> >> god-given right (and you see it, six-shooters on the hip, in
> >> quite a few places).
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> > Susprising to many people, Texas is NOT an open carry state.
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> I believe the only state that is open carry and really means it is
> Arizona. Technically, California is an open carry state, last I
> heard, but woe unto the poor slob that tries it, even here behing
> the Orange Curtain.
Incorrect as far as I can tell. There are actually only eight states
(that I could tell from the map I googled) that are *specifically*
illegal to carry open carry firearms.
There are at least that many that are open carry with no licenses and
twice that have licensed open carry. I double checked, because I
remembered that Utah had a law were it was quite legal to carry a
firearm on your hip, but not under your jacket.
> > If
> > you have a CHL and allow your weapon to be seen you can be
> > fined.
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> Unless, of course, you do it on purpose for a good reason. :)
>
> --
> Terry Austin
>
> "There's no law west of the internet."
> =A0 =A0 - Nick Stump
>
> Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
How many people do need to carry firearms though? One in ten to be
'safe'?
Arthur Hansen
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