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Re: Not always joking, it seems

by Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 19, 2008 at 09:29 PM

David Friedman <ddfr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
news:ddfr-B5ADAA.12005219022008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

> In article <2VCuj.9964$XI.2178@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>  Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
>> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>> 
>> > We have real life data on that, as well. Cops aren't very
>> > good shots. They're not trained to more than a minimal
>> > proficiency with their firearms, since training time is very
>> > limited and expensive, and it is preferred to train them to
>> > avoid the need to shoot entirely. Ordinary people who legally
>> > carry, however, seem to generally be much more proficient in
>> > the actual use of their firearms - they're better shots - and
>> > seem to be very, very cautious about actually using them -
>> > more so than cops, in many places.
>> > 
>> 
>> You really do talk a whole load of rubbish, don't you?
> 
> He does, but I'm not sure this is an example.
> 
> A policeman who shoots the wrong person by accident is a lot
> less likely to get into serious trouble than a civilian who
> does, at least in the U.S.

And most certainly, gun owners are taught that.

> and I suspect in many other places,
> so one would expect sensible civilians, at least, to be more
> cautious about using firearms than even sensible cops.
> 
And, again, the average ccw permit holder practices quite a bit 
more than the average cop, and is a better shot.

-- 
Terry Austin

"There's no law west of the internet."
    - Nick Stump

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
 




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Re: Not always joking, it seems
Willie.Mookie@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-16 03:38:49 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-16 10:21:40 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-02-16 11:20:10 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Kat R <null.space@[EMA  2008-02-16 14:32:59 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-16 19:39:36 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-16 12:45:42 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-17 00:50:47 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-16 16:55:45 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
John Schilling <schill  2008-02-16 17:30:34 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-17 02:20:08 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
John Schilling <schill  2008-02-17 08:47:07 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-17 16:57:10 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-17 10:50:44 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-17 11:34:27 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-17 19:39:27 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Tim Merrigan <tppm@[EM  2008-02-18 06:07:00 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
jgd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (J  2008-02-17 19:44:00 
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"Jay E. Morris"  2008-02-18 03:53:15 
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Doug Wickstrom <nimshu  2008-03-06 18:23:05 
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David Johnston <david@  2008-02-17 19:48:27 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-17 12:08:12 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-17 12:25:52 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-21 19:21:54 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 19:48:40 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-21 18:42:25 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-22 16:11:20 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-17 21:54:26 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 19:24:58 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-19 01:00:10 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-19 03:16:58 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-19 04:03:47 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-19 05:28:06 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-20 01:39:28 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-20 02:49:20 
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Tim Merrigan <tppm@[EM  2008-02-19 13:18:57 
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tmcd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-02-19 21:46:43 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-02-19 18:25:03 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-20 02:49:28 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-21 19:25:49 
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rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-21 21:02:36 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-23 00:55:49 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-23 13:17:38 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-23 18:42:47 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-24 18:28:14 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-24 13:51:36 
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Daniel R. Reitman <dre  2008-02-24 17:36:56 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-24 16:20:35 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-01 04:04:39 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-03 21:33:13 
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David T. Bilek <davidb  2008-02-23 19:49:45 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-18 01:20:27 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 19:23:17 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-18 17:52:25 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 23:00:50 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-18 22:12:37 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-19 03:26:41 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-19 00:11:46 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-19 05:31:03 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-19 03:06:40 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-19 17:21:33 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-21 19:27:14 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-21 19:31:55 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-21 18:43:42 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2008-03-11 21:01:39 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 19:22:47 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-18 17:54:24 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 23:03:21 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-18 22:14:27 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-19 17:22:27 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-19 15:50:22 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-19 17:30:22 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-20 02:18:37 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-20 02:49:56 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-19 12:00:52 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-19 21:29:15 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2008-03-11 21:07:50 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-03-11 23:03:48 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-23 15:51:05 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-23 18:44:02 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-18 01:19:00 
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Tim Merrigan <tppm@[EM  2008-02-18 12:25:26 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-18 17:55:06 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-02-17 15:09:38 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 19:21:58 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-18 19:56:25 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 21:40:05 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-18 21:51:48 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 22:19:17 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-18 22:43:37 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 22:48:25 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-18 22:56:09 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 23:05:10 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-18 23:12:09 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 23:24:23 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-18 23:50:58 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-19 00:00:58 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-18 16:43:28 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-19 03:14:41 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-19 03:53:39 
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Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-18 23:18:57 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-18 21:20:34 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-19 00:12:36 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-18 21:21:18 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-19 05:26:30 
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Howard Brazee <pbrazee  2008-02-19 05:55:09 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2008-03-11 21:11:05 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-03-11 23:04:32 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2008-03-28 00:14:06 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-03-27 23:26:54 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-18 16:42:47 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-19 00:48:13 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-18 22:16:42 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-19 03:29:01 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-19 03:41:20 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-19 05:21:25 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-19 03:38:07 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-19 00:13:14 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-19 05:21:01 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-19 05:32:17 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-19 05:43:25 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-19 17:25:14 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-19 03:25:48 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-19 09:21:40 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-19 12:13:17 
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Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-19 12:33:15 
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Bill Snyder <bsnyder@[  2008-02-19 12:35:25 
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Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-19 15:24:53 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-19 14:26:02 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-19 20:26:30 
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Kurt Busiek <kurt@[EMA  2008-02-19 11:50:28 
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Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-19 15:25:48 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-19 20:23:13 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-19 22:01:30 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-19 22:21:56 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-19 22:41:10 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-19 23:42:12 
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Tim Merrigan <tppm@[EM  2008-02-20 10:34:19 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-20 21:21:51 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-20 16:35:27 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-19 05:26:07 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-21 19:31:08 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 19:56:39 
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Aaron Denney <wnoise@[  2008-02-21 19:59:01 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 20:04:56 
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Daniel R. Reitman <dre  2008-02-21 14:15:09 
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"pullo" <pul  2008-02-21 21:15:10 
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"pullo" <pul  2008-02-21 21:29:42 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-21 21:24:39 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-22 21:35:44 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-26 16:09:19 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-26 16:08:56 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-26 21:26:28 
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David Harmon <source@[  2008-02-26 23:34:15 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-27 14:35:08 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-27 11:56:47 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-27 10:36:55 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-27 18:58:54 
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Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-27 15:32:57 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-27 21:15:27 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-27 20:43:26 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-27 15:08:39 
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prd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-02-28 11:40:00 
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Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-29 11:11:06 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-27 10:36:31 
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David Harmon <source@[  2008-02-27 21:19:26 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-28 16:35:55 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-21 20:07:13 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 20:11:13 
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David Harmon <source@[  2008-02-21 12:44:35 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 21:46:36 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-21 23:18:35 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 23:23:56 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-21 23:34:07 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 23:38:12 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-21 23:51:58 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 23:59:15 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-22 00:26:37 
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Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-22 09:43:13 
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Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-22 10:32:37 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-22 17:46:49 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-02-22 13:29:55 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-22 18:08:36 
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goldfarb@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-23 10:43:46 
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Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-23 09:01:53 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-23 12:51:40 
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Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-23 16:23:39 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-23 16:58:04 
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goldfarb@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-24 06:22:23 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-24 14:52:42 
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Edward McArdle <mcardl  2008-02-26 21:03:07 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-26 22:05:04 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-23 18:47:12 
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tmcd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-02-23 12:37:23 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-23 17:55:06 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2008-03-11 21:16:36 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-03-11 23:05:14 
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David Harmon <source@[  2008-02-22 08:48:34 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-22 17:47:28 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-22 21:01:18 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-21 21:17:32 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 21:48:10 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-21 23:19:19 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 23:24:15 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-21 23:34:34 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-21 20:18:38 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-21 21:21:14 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-21 18:46:44 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-21 12:39:06 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-21 21:22:48 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 21:44:07 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-21 21:54:38 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-22 07:36:28 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-22 08:15:52 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-22 08:19:21 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-23 04:21:47 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-22 21:54:14 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-23 04:20:18 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-22 21:05:39 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-23 05:16:17 
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rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-22 00:18:32 
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Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-21 19:26:02 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 16:50:38 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-26 16:20:23 
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"AJ" <tortur  2008-02-26 12:38:43 
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Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-26 16:40:07 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-26 21:21:46 
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David Harmon <source@[  2008-02-26 09:50:23 
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"Mike Schilling&quo  2008-02-26 09:16:29 
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tmcd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-02-26 17:17:25 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 10:13:53 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 10:37:39 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-21 16:51:11 
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"pullo" <pul  2008-02-21 21:02:13 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-21 18:08:45 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-21 16:45:31 
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Howard Brazee <pbrazee  2008-02-22 05:57:57 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-26 16:16:27 
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rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-26 17:09:00 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-21 18:50:04 
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rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-22 00:29:06 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-22 08:09:32 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-22 21:51:29 
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Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-22 22:53:55 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-25 16:02:55 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-26 19:33:00 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-26 17:09:01 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-27 02:58:55 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-27 01:09:20 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-27 06:17:19 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David T. Bilek <davidb  2008-02-26 22:39:01 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-27 07:06:57 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-27 21:20:47 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-27 17:09:25 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-27 18:12:34 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-28 21:51:40 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-28 03:43:28 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-28 21:52:38 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-29 06:12:16 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-29 00:02:59 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-28 21:54:52 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-01 04:08:21 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Harmon <source@[  2008-03-01 20:43:46 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David T. Bilek <davidb  2008-03-01 22:47:49 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Harmon <source@[  2008-03-03 01:46:04 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Doug Wickstrom <nimshu  2008-03-06 19:52:09 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-03-25 23:05:15 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-03-26 08:23:46 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-26 22:33:38 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-03-27 06:52:40 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-03-27 06:51:54 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-27 14:57:32 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-27 21:19:52 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-27 17:11:41 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-21 21:21:23 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-21 16:38:25 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-22 04:40:49 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-21 21:40:51 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-23 01:37:58 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-23 02:53:17 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-23 03:49:44 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-23 03:59:45 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-02-23 03:45:02 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-23 06:07:10 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-26 19:40:52 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling&quo  2008-02-26 12:21:14 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-26 17:11:04 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-26 20:40:50 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-26 21:18:23 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-27 01:10:11 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-27 07:59:26 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-27 17:12:24 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-27 15:09:16 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-27 17:13:10 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-28 03:50:24 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-28 14:56:05 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-29 06:13:58 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-28 22:06:41 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-26 16:06:35 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling&quo  2008-02-26 09:15:40 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 10:18:43 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling&quo  2008-02-26 10:32:03 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 11:06:02 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling&quo  2008-02-26 12:18:47 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 22:22:19 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-27 21:34:09 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-28 01:09:20 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-26 21:14:34 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-26 17:12:35 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-26 20:45:50 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-27 08:09:34 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-26 19:35:32 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 12:10:04 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-26 20:14:51 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 12:20:00 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-26 20:39:21 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 22:19:41 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-27 07:05:58 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-27 03:01:16 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-27 15:01:39 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-27 20:48:55 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-27 22:12:11 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-02 11:40:39 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-03-02 16:39:45 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-03-02 22:02:38 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-03-02 15:07:37 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-03-02 19:05:37 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-02 17:45:08 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-03-02 15:00:34 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Bill Snyder <bsnyder@[  2008-02-27 09:30:38 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-27 10:34:06 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Daniel R. Reitman <dre  2008-02-27 17:01:18 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-27 12:09:04 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-27 22:32:16 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-26 21:05:52 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 22:16:39 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-27 22:13:21 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-27 22:34:53 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-26 20:16:51 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 22:24:09 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-27 07:08:06 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-27 03:00:28 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-02-27 19:04:22 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-27 18:11:14 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-28 11:32:43 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
lathamr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-27 22:24:33 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-28 03:47:34 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-27 20:41:20 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-28 05:04:00 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-28 07:10:53 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-02-28 05:55:53 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-28 09:21:50 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling&quo  2008-02-28 19:18:52 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Robert A. Woodward&  2008-02-28 23:27:06 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-28 21:06:33 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
cgoodin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-28 18:03:33 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-28 21:17:39 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-02-28 19:57:04 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
cgoodin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-29 18:53:32 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-29 21:14:49 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
cgoodin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-04 18:04:57 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Peter Bruells <usernet  2008-03-05 08:58:54 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-03-05 08:10:53 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Peter Bruells <usernet  2008-03-05 15:20:13 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling"  2008-03-05 07:20:49 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Peter Bruells <usernet  2008-03-05 16:32:38 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling"  2008-03-05 08:36:33 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-03-05 20:37:39 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-05 20:49:59 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Joe Ellis <synthfilker  2008-03-06 11:39:12 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-06 23:28:02 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
cgoodin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-06 18:31:33 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-03-06 19:13:31 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Patrick Baldwin <pax@[  2008-03-07 17:38:29 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-03-05 19:49:50 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-28 13:28:11 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-29 21:59:29 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-02-28 05:52:04 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-28 09:18:24 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-28 16:29:29 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
John Schilling <schill  2008-02-28 17:34:47 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-02-28 19:53:57 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-26 19:33:18 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr