On Feb 20, 5:33=A0am, db...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
("David G. Bell") wrote:
> On Tuesday, in article <2008021918354550878-pbrazee@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> =A0 =A0 =A0pbra...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Howard Brazee" wrote:
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> > On 2008-02-19 10:46:25 -0700, William Hyde <wthyde1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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said:
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> > >> I often wonder when I see things like this incident; you have one
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> > >> with a gun, and several hundred people without one. How come none
of
> > >> them tried throwing things at him? Ru****ng the stage? Turning the
fir=
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> > >> hose on him?
>
> > > Just to add an SF reference, Keith Laumer (in "Worlds of the
> > > Imperium", I think) has a scene in =A0parallel world in which people
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> > > just that, suffering serious casualties but bringing the armed men
> > > (beings?) down. The narrator speculates that people could still do
> > > that because in the given time line, WWI never happened.
>
> > It didn't take long for people in 9/11 to figure out what needed to be
> > done. =A0 The heros brought down the 4th (and maybe the 3rd). =A0 =A0
>
> It took a while for them to screw their courage to the sticking place.
> Which didn't make the courage any less, but the timescale is different,
> and I think it matters. (I was watching a programme about the kamikaze
> on Monday night. Some of the people on the programme were only alive
> because the war had ended before they were assigned a mission. There was
> a lot of build-up and collective social pressure.)
>
> --
> David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.
>
> On the horizon, a carrier task force of the Salvation Navy was
> turning into the wind, preparing to launch Zeppelins.
Hindsight is a wonderfull thing, isn't it?
Before 9/11 we had all been conditioned by news, past events etc to
believe
a plane hijacking was a kdinapping. and the best solution was to sit
tight,
and cooperate until government forces and negotiators could hopefully
resolve the crisis
with minimum loss of life. Like an Entebbe
That the plane would land someplace, not be used as a suicide bomber.
Thats what those who died at the WTC and Pentagon believed
If they had known the true intent, things might have been different.
The later plane passengers had the benefit of cell phone re****ts and
time
to tell them what was really happening and gave them a chance to do
something
about it.
All passengers died tragically and as heroes.
Anyone who faces any kind of emergency crisis like that (which they
are not trained
for or its their job). Their first reaction even if only a second is
a sense of disbelief
or "this can't be happening" before deciding what to do about it. and
there might
be an uncertainty about what to do also. I know this from personal
experience.
and I think everyone felt something like that when they first saw the
news about 9/11
Columbine was very similar in that respect.
Anyone who believes the solution was to arm everyone in the classroom
so they can
shoot that guy is a fool and thats just Crazy Eddie thinking.
We have plenty examples where everyone is armed like in city schools
and those have turned
out to be war zones with a large body count.
tphile
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