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Re: Not always joking, it seems

by "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 20, 2008 at 11:51 PM

Gene Ward Smith <gene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> You "think" in slogans, which isn't thought at all.  "Guns don't
> kill people, people kill people".  And therefore, 100% of the time,
> it must be the case that the murder would have happened anyway, had
> there been no gun.

Or rather, anyone motivated enough to kill would also be motivated
enough to obtain a gun.  Since he's not deterred by murder being
illegal, he won't be deterred by guns being illegal.

Perhaps the idea is to make guns not merely illegal but unavailable?

That's not going to happen unless they repeatedly search everyone's
home and businesses, and seize not just all guns but also all machine
shops.  They're not even able to keep drugs out, and drugs are rapidly
consumed.  Guns can last for decades.

Even if they made the whole US as locked-down and draconian as a
maximum security prison, they won't find guns that are buried in
the woods.

So the only question -- and I'm sorry if it sounds like a slogan -- is
whether everyone who wants to should be armed, or only the bad guys.

> It's remarkable, but not in the least amazing, how stupid people can
> be when they refuse to think.

I'm wondering if you'll even see this, or whether you're completely
oblivious to the fact that you've been broadcasting to two newsgroups,
and you're only checking for responses in the other one.
-- 
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html
before emailing me.




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Re: Not always joking, it seems
"louann_m@[EMAIL PRO  2008-02-18 11:01:47 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-18 12:41:47 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-18 18:17:33 
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Kurt Busiek <kurt@[EMA  2008-02-18 15:49:54 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-18 22:08:35 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-19 22:17:10 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-19 23:46:50 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-20 00:08:39 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-23 15:45:10 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Howard Brazee <pbrazee  2008-02-20 06:53:49 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Kurt Busiek <kurt@[EMA  2008-02-20 10:05:56 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-18 18:07:02 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-02-19 18:25:03 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-19 22:47:21 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-19 22:25:21 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-20 02:52:05 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-20 08:17:20 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-20 13:57:47 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-20 19:14:13 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-20 20:02:59 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-21 01:10:25 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-20 21:15:03 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-21 02:59:46 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-20 22:18:40 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-21 03:23:09 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-20 22:33:09 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-21 04:11:00 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-21 02:06:34 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-21 12:09:34 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-21 07:38:49 
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dbell@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-21 16:04:56 
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Bill Snyder <bsnyder@[  2008-02-21 18:53:44 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-21 04:27:28 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-21 03:45:25 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-20 23:18:32 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-21 04:33:07 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-20 23:51:54 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-21 02:05:42 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 07:21:12 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-21 04:37:34 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-21 12:03:01 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-21 12:04:42 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-21 07:37:28 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-21 13:35:40 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-21 19:02:25 
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Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-21 13:41:12 
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rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-21 21:33:36 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-21 21:42:40 
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rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-21 22:05:08 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-21 16:36:45 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-21 19:03:21 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-22 00:31:37 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-02-21 20:18:51 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-22 04:49:36 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-22 21:47:25 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Jay E. Morris"  2008-02-22 03:47:12 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
John Schilling <schill  2008-02-22 17:19:32 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-23 01:00:18 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"louann_m@[EMAIL PRO  2008-02-19 16:24:04 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-19 22:08:30 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-19 22:37:54 

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