Re: Not always joking, it seems

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:47:21 -0500, mike weber <fair****tfan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:25:03 -0800, John Schilling
><schillin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:07:02 -0500, mike weber <fair****tfan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>wrote:

>>>There is reason to doubt whether the "assassin" actually killed Long,
>>>since his bodyguards cut loose with .45s and appear to have hit him at
>>>least once or tweic; as i remarked above, Weiss had something like a
>>>.32 revolver, a weapon slightly more dealy than a .25 calibre beadroom
>>>gun.
>>Which you may note is .03 calibers greater than one of the more common,
>>and successful, assassination weapons.

>So? The .25 cartidge and most of the guns that fire it is ****;
>sometimes it's doing good to penetrate a heavy coat, and that at
>relatively close range.

>A friend of mine when i was in Sicily in the Navy was shot three times
>in the legs with a .25, and, until he saw blood on his pant leg,
>thought he'd been shot with a BB gun.

>And the .22 round used for assassination is rather more powerful, to
>say the least, than a .25; 

I think you're comparing .22LR ballistics from a rifle, with .25ACP
as fired from a short-barreled pistol.  Standard loads from identical
barrel lengths, there's not much difference between the two.

Well, except that the .25, being a rimless centerfire, is much more
expensive and somewhat more reliable.  And that the .22 is sometimes
used in target pistols that gun nuts admire, whereas the .25 is only
used in subcompact weapons that gun nuts despise.


>>>Between .45s and a .32, i know which i'd pick as probable cause of
>>>death.

>>Well, yeah.  Whichever one was aimed by an assassin, rather than hit by
>>dumb luck.

>>The lethality of pistol bullets, or more commonly the lack thereof, has
>>*far* more to do with where the bullet hits, than with how big a bullet
>>it is.  

>Two or three .45 rounds in the body are going to be more lethal than a
>similar number of .32 rounds in equivalent locations.

Only slightly so.  And what makes you think that "equivalent locations" 
is at all a reasonable assumption, when comparing friendly-fire accidents
to assassination attempts?

This being a purely speculative friendly-fire accident, I suppose we can
speculate that the bodyguards managed to accidentally put every round
right through Long's heart, but really, if there's a bullet through 
someone's vital organs, I'd bet it was put there by someone who was
aiming to kill them, than by someone who wasn't.


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