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Re: Not always joking, it seems

by IsaacKuo <mechdan@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 26, 2008 at 07:54 PM

On Feb 26, 7:05 pm, "pullo" <pullo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "IsaacKuo" <mech...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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news:0a075502-bf02-434c-bbd4-501b2eac5715@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Feb 26, 1:29 pm, Gene Ward Smith <g...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> > se...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Seth) wrote in news:fq1deb$4st$1
> > @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > The price of murder should be much higher;
> >> > it's the liberals who want
> >> > to minimize the punishment of murderers.
> >> Evidence?
> > Heck, I'm just wondering how you're supposed to
> > make the price "much higher" than the death penalty.

> Crucifixion worked for the Romans. Family/group reprisals works on some,
> assuming the perpetrator really cares for his family/group.

Thanks for the various answers, everybody.  Most of
the replies don't seem to be what Seth had in mind,
which is what I was really curious about.

Personally, I don't really know whether being tortured
to death (via crucifixion or other means) is really
"much" worse than the death penalty alone.
It's worse, sure, but is it "much" worse?  I don't know.
I mean, torture...it sucks to endure torture, but it's
something that someone can survive, and afterward
it's possible to grow old and live a full life and maybe
even run for President.  You can't get over death.

Family/group executions are a straightforward case
of being a "much" worse punishment (for those
criminals who care, of course).  However, it's not
compatible with a goal of protecting the innocent.

>  I think one assumption being made here is that harsher sentencing does
lead
> to lower incidence.

That was an assumption Seth was making, and while
I don't agree with this assumption I can comprehend it.
It was the other part of Seth's argument which I
wanted some clarification on.

>  Those in favour of capital punishment often rebut that it has to be
seen to
> be _effective_ capital; punishment in that it occurs with some
regularity
> and reasonable quickly.

Maybe this is what Seth was thinking?  That swift
and certain death is a much worse punishment
than death that takes a few years and isn't
guaranteed?

Isaac Kuo
 




 8 Posts in Topic:
Re: Not always joking, it seems
IsaacKuo <mechdan@[EMA  2008-02-26 19:54:10 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 22:13:01 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Aaron Denney <wnoise@[  2008-02-27 06:16:28 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 22:31:05 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-27 12:27:25 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-27 22:46:58 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Aaron Denney <wnoise@[  2008-02-28 21:24:43 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-28 19:43:25 

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