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Re: Not always joking, it seems

by Jasper Janssen <jasper@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 11, 2008 at 09:01 PM

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:08:12 -0800, David Friedman
<ddfr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>In article <cr3hr3l91ol10potv5ci66t9jlgeo5i3fe@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> David Johnston <david@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>> Friendly fire incidents have happened many times.  
>
>Sure. But they don't generally take the form described.

Actually..

If you generalise the scenario a bit, ie "bad guy fires gun. Good Guy
Group one fires at Bad Guy. Good Guy Group Two proceeds to whoop Good Guy
Group 1's ass, because they just hear gunfire and don't know where it's
coming from or that Group 1 are good guys", that's *exactly* how an awful
damned lot of blue on blue happens, if not most of it.

Very few situations are as clearcut as an auditorium filled with seated
students -- including one where all of the crowd is getting up, screaming,
and many of them are firing guns at a Bad Guy.

Incidentally, if you think that people won't fire through the front ranks
at a threat just because they don't have a clear field of fire, when the
threat appears you get tunnel vision, and you very well might not see the
rest of the audience at all, even when they're passing between your gun
and the target. That happens fairly frequently. Certainly enough that in a
crowd of 100, it almost certainly will happen.

Jasper
 




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Willie.Mookie@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-16 03:38:49 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-16 10:21:40 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-02-16 11:20:10 
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Kat R <null.space@[EMA  2008-02-16 14:32:59 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-16 19:39:36 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-16 12:45:42 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-17 00:50:47 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-16 16:55:45 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-02-16 17:30:34 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-17 02:20:08 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-02-17 08:47:07 
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Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-17 16:57:10 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-17 10:50:44 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-17 11:34:27 
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Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-17 19:39:27 
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Tim Merrigan <tppm@[EM  2008-02-18 06:07:00 
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jgd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (J  2008-02-17 19:44:00 
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"Jay E. Morris"  2008-02-18 03:53:15 
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Doug Wickstrom <nimshu  2008-03-06 18:23:05 
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David Johnston <david@  2008-02-17 19:48:27 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-17 12:08:12 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-17 12:25:52 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-21 19:21:54 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 19:48:40 
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Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-22 16:11:20 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-17 21:54:26 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 19:24:58 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-19 01:00:10 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-19 04:03:47 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-20 02:49:20 
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Tim Merrigan <tppm@[EM  2008-02-19 13:18:57 
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tmcd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-02-19 21:46:43 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-20 02:49:28 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-21 19:25:49 
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rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-21 21:02:36 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-23 00:55:49 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-23 13:17:38 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-24 18:28:14 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-24 13:51:36 
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Daniel R. Reitman <dre  2008-02-24 17:36:56 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-24 16:20:35 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-03 21:33:13 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 19:23:17 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-18 17:52:25 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 23:00:50 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-18 22:12:37 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-19 03:26:41 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-19 05:31:03 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-19 17:21:33 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-21 19:27:14 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-21 19:31:55 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-21 18:43:42 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2008-03-11 21:01:39 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 19:22:47 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-18 17:54:24 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 23:03:21 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-18 22:14:27 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-19 17:22:27 
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Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-19 15:50:22 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-19 17:30:22 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-20 02:18:37 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-20 02:49:56 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-19 12:00:52 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-19 21:29:15 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2008-03-11 21:07:50 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-03-11 23:03:48 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-23 15:51:05 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-18 01:19:00 
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Tim Merrigan <tppm@[EM  2008-02-18 12:25:26 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-02-17 15:09:38 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 19:21:58 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-18 19:56:25 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 21:40:05 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-18 21:51:48 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 22:19:17 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-18 22:43:37 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 22:48:25 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-19 00:00:58 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-18 16:43:28 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-19 03:14:41 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-19 03:53:39 
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Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-18 23:18:57 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-18 21:20:34 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-18 21:21:18 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-03-11 23:04:32 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2008-03-28 00:14:06 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-03-27 23:26:54 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-18 16:42:47 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-18 22:16:42 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-19 03:29:01 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-19 05:21:25 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-19 03:38:07 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-19 00:13:14 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-19 05:21:01 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-19 05:32:17 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-19 17:25:14 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-19 03:25:48 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-19 09:21:40 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-19 12:13:17 
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Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-19 12:33:15 
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Bill Snyder <bsnyder@[  2008-02-19 12:35:25 
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Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-19 15:24:53 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-19 14:26:02 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-19 20:26:30 
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Kurt Busiek <kurt@[EMA  2008-02-19 11:50:28 
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Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-19 15:25:48 
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Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-19 20:23:13 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-19 22:01:30 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-19 22:21:56 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-19 22:41:10 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-19 23:42:12 
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Tim Merrigan <tppm@[EM  2008-02-20 10:34:19 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-20 21:21:51 
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Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-20 16:35:27 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-19 05:26:07 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-21 19:31:08 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 19:56:39 
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Aaron Denney <wnoise@[  2008-02-21 19:59:01 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 20:04:56 
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Daniel R. Reitman <dre  2008-02-21 14:15:09 
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"pullo" <pul  2008-02-21 21:15:10 
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"pullo" <pul  2008-02-21 21:29:42 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-21 21:24:39 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-22 21:35:44 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-26 16:09:19 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-26 16:08:56 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-26 21:26:28 
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David Harmon <source@[  2008-02-26 23:34:15 
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Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-27 14:35:08 
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Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-27 11:56:47 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-27 10:36:55 
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Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-27 18:58:54 
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Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-27 15:32:57 
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sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-27 21:15:27 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-27 20:43:26 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-27 15:08:39 
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prd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-02-28 11:40:00 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-27 10:36:31 
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David Harmon <source@[  2008-02-27 21:19:26 
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Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-28 16:35:55 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-21 20:07:13 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 20:11:13 
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David Harmon <source@[  2008-02-21 12:44:35 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 21:46:36 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-21 23:18:35 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 23:23:56 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-21 23:34:07 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 23:38:12 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-21 23:51:58 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 23:59:15 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-22 00:26:37 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-26 22:05:04 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-22 21:01:18 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 21:48:10 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 23:24:15 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-21 21:21:14 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-21 21:44:07 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-22 07:36:28 
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"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-22 08:15:52 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-23 04:21:47 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-23 04:20:18 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-27 02:58:55 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-27 01:09:20 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-27 06:17:19 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David T. Bilek <davidb  2008-02-26 22:39:01 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-27 07:06:57 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-27 21:20:47 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-27 17:09:25 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-27 18:12:34 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-28 21:51:40 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-28 03:43:28 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-28 21:52:38 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-29 06:12:16 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-29 00:02:59 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-28 21:54:52 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-01 04:08:21 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Harmon <source@[  2008-03-01 20:43:46 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David T. Bilek <davidb  2008-03-01 22:47:49 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Harmon <source@[  2008-03-03 01:46:04 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Doug Wickstrom <nimshu  2008-03-06 19:52:09 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-03-25 23:05:15 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-03-26 08:23:46 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-26 22:33:38 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-03-27 06:52:40 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-03-27 06:51:54 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-27 14:57:32 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-27 21:19:52 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-27 17:11:41 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-21 21:21:23 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-21 16:38:25 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-22 04:40:49 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-21 21:40:51 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-23 01:37:58 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-23 02:53:17 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-23 03:49:44 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-23 03:59:45 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-02-23 03:45:02 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-23 06:07:10 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-26 19:40:52 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling&quo  2008-02-26 12:21:14 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-26 17:11:04 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-26 20:40:50 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-26 21:18:23 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-27 01:10:11 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-27 07:59:26 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-27 17:12:24 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-27 15:09:16 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-27 17:13:10 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-28 03:50:24 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-28 14:56:05 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-29 06:13:58 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-28 22:06:41 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-26 16:06:35 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling&quo  2008-02-26 09:15:40 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 10:18:43 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling&quo  2008-02-26 10:32:03 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 11:06:02 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling&quo  2008-02-26 12:18:47 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 22:22:19 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-27 21:34:09 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-28 01:09:20 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-26 21:14:34 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-02-26 17:12:35 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-26 20:45:50 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-02-27 08:09:34 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-26 19:35:32 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 12:10:04 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-26 20:14:51 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 12:20:00 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-26 20:39:21 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 22:19:41 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-27 07:05:58 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-27 03:01:16 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-27 15:01:39 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-27 20:48:55 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-27 22:12:11 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-02 11:40:39 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-03-02 16:39:45 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-03-02 22:02:38 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-03-02 15:07:37 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-03-02 19:05:37 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-02 17:45:08 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-03-02 15:00:34 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Bill Snyder <bsnyder@[  2008-02-27 09:30:38 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-27 10:34:06 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Daniel R. Reitman <dre  2008-02-27 17:01:18 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-27 12:09:04 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-27 22:32:16 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-26 21:05:52 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 22:16:39 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-27 22:13:21 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-02-27 22:34:53 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-26 20:16:51 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 22:24:09 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-27 07:08:06 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-27 03:00:28 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-02-27 19:04:22 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling"  2008-02-27 18:11:14 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-28 11:32:43 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
lathamr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-27 22:24:33 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-28 03:47:34 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-27 20:41:20 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-28 05:04:00 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-28 07:10:53 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-02-28 05:55:53 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-28 09:21:50 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling&quo  2008-02-28 19:18:52 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Robert A. Woodward&  2008-02-28 23:27:06 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-28 21:06:33 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
cgoodin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-28 18:03:33 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-28 21:17:39 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-02-28 19:57:04 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
cgoodin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-29 18:53:32 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-02-29 21:14:49 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
cgoodin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-04 18:04:57 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Peter Bruells <usernet  2008-03-05 08:58:54 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-03-05 08:10:53 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Peter Bruells <usernet  2008-03-05 15:20:13 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling"  2008-03-05 07:20:49 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Peter Bruells <usernet  2008-03-05 16:32:38 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Mike Schilling"  2008-03-05 08:36:33 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-03-05 20:37:39 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-05 20:49:59 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Joe Ellis <synthfilker  2008-03-06 11:39:12 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
sethb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-06 23:28:02 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
cgoodin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-06 18:31:33 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2008-03-06 19:13:31 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Patrick Baldwin <pax@[  2008-03-07 17:38:29 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-03-05 19:49:50 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-02-28 13:28:11 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
"Karl Johanson"  2008-02-29 21:59:29 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-02-28 05:52:04 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-28 09:18:24 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-02-28 16:29:29 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
John Schilling <schill  2008-02-28 17:34:47 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-02-28 19:53:57 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-26 19:33:18 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-02-26 12:11:38 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Gene Ward Smith <gene@  2008-02-26 20:18:16