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Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)

by David Friedman <ddfr@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 1, 2008 at 12:18 PM

In article <65fb7hF2fucqcU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 Sean O'Hara <seanohara@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> > If you're willing to pay someone to haul it away, why would you object
> > to someone else hauling it away for free? 
> 
> It's a matter of principle -- it is my private property, for me to 
> dispose of as I see fit.

The problem is one of communication. One interpretation of putting your 
trash out is "this is stuff I no longer care about; anyone can take it." 
A different interpretation is "this is stuff being transferred from me 
to the garbage collectors."

On the first interpretation, putting it out was a statement of how you 
see fit to dispose of it--if you didn't want to completely give up 
ownership you would have put up a sign saying "For Jones garbage 
collection only." On the second interpretation, if you wanted it free to 
anyone to take it you would have put up a sign saying "free to anyone 
who wants it."

People in this thread seem to be arguing as if the distinction was a 
question of principle when it's mostly one of custom, which determines 
the meaning of such acts.

-- 
 http://www.daviddfriedman.com/
http://daviddfriedman.blogspot.com/
 Author of _Harald_, a fantasy without magic.
 Published by Baen, in bookstores now




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Re: Not always joking, it seems
dbell@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-07 11:28:33 
PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
Joe Ellis <synthfilker  2008-03-08 02:58:09 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
Jette <bosslady@[EMAIL  2008-03-08 09:40:44 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
Joe Ellis <synthfilker  2008-03-08 15:04:47 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-03-25 23:42:24 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-08 12:58:23 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Karl Johanson"  2008-03-08 19:16:52 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
Joe Ellis <synthfilker  2008-03-08 15:00:32 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-08 16:24:06 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
Joe Ellis <synthfilker  2008-03-09 04:31:47 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-09 23:47:25 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
Joe Ellis <synthfilker  2008-03-10 17:47:36 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
tmcd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-03-10 23:02:20 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-10 21:59:18 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-10 20:19:13 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-03-25 23:51:44 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-26 00:03:33 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-03-26 08:24:56 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-26 22:27:19 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-03-26 23:04:03 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-03-25 23:47:32 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Jay E. Morris"  2008-03-10 01:38:43 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-09 22:54:31 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
David Harmon <source@[  2008-03-09 21:25:20 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-10 22:29:11 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
David Harmon <source@[  2008-03-11 13:12:25 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-03-10 18:17:15 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-10 19:59:34 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
rkshullat@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-11 00:32:13 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-03-26 00:19:49 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-26 23:18:04 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-03-27 06:57:02 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-27 21:13:58 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-03-29 07:35:45 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-29 15:05:03 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-03-30 15:46:11 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-30 16:11:02 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Jay E. Morris"  2008-03-30 21:53:48 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-30 18:31:35 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
Doug Wickstrom <nimshu  2008-03-30 22:32:36 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-30 23:55:29 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-03-31 13:28:20 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-03-31 13:40:20 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
Doug Wickstrom <nimshu  2008-03-31 16:05:55 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Jay E. Morris"  2008-04-01 23:41:36 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-03-31 13:06:01 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-31 19:05:49 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-03-31 19:40:16 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
Sean O'Hara <seanohara  2008-04-01 13:54:30 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-04-01 12:18:44 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-04-02 21:14:03 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-04-01 00:11:29 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Jay E. Morris"  2008-03-12 03:27:36 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-03-25 23:55:11 
Re: PEX (was Re: Not always joking...)
"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-03-26 23:26:51 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
mike weber <fairportfa  2008-03-25 23:08:41 
Re: Not always joking, it seems
Doug Wickstrom <nimshu  2008-03-28 16:17:43 

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