Re: Philcon is in New Jersey (!) this year

On Apr 17, 11:45 pm, David Friedman <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> <81217485-9b9f-4f41-9663-fff419d40...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>  Andre Lieven <andrelie...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Keith just keeps on proving his true status... It has zilch to do with
> > me, as I sure didn't make him slur the Philcon concom.
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> Nor did he.

1) He did:

" Is Philcon intended for all fans, or only for motorists? "

2) I'm far from alone in criticising Keith's narcissism:

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From: Jonathan J. Baker <jjba...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:10:29 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:10 am
Subject: Re: Philcon is in New Jersey (!) this year

In <> "Keith F. Lynch" <k...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>Douglas Berry <penguin_...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Keith whines and complains, and then when people do all the research
>> for him, still complains.
>What *have* you been smoking?
>Do you work on setup or teardown at any cons, or do you just complain
>about the people who do?

Um, Keith: I think it was just the last line, the anti-motorist line,
that rubbed people the wrong way.  It changed your post from a simple
request for info into a bullheaded kvetch about Some People who don't
take Users of Public Transit into account.

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From: Douglas Berry <penguin_...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:26:05 -0700
Local: Sat, Mar 22 2008 1:26 am
Subject: Re: Philcon is in New Jersey (!) this year

On  Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:16:23 -0400 fanoid <fan...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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carved
the following into the hard stone of rec.arts.sf.fandom

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Keith whines and complains, and then when people do all the research
for him, still complains. His post accused the convention of catering
to motorists as if it were some sort of conspiracy to keep him out,
because Keith, being a Special Snowflake, is inconvenienced by the
move.

In 30 years of fandom, I've found that we can be a hard-assed lot
when
dealing with someone who annoys the group (whatever that group may
be.) Someone who bites the hand that is trying to help him is going
to
annoy many people.

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From: "Evelyn C. Leeper" <elee...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:14:48 -0400
Local: Mon, Mar 17 2008 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: Philcon is in New Jersey (!) this year

David Goldfarb wrote:
> In article <frmun7$l0...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Keith F. Lynch <k...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> <Just.A.New...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> The Philcon folks seem to have a Work In Progress, this from the
>>> version updated on the 14th of March:
>>> "The hotel, just five miles from Center City Philadelphia, is
>>> accessible by train and bus, and features free parking!"
>> If it's only five miles, I'd just as soon walk.  But I have to
>> know the way.
> I'm sure Google Maps would be happy to give you directions -- click
> on the option that says "avoid highways".  There might even be
> a "Street View" available.

'll say it again--if you are that committed to getting there in some
specific way, then you need to take some responsibility for figuring
out
how to do it.  Finding buses or walking routes isn't hard--even those
of
us who aren't going to use them can find them in a minute or so.  But
you seem to think that not only should the convention be placed so
that
you can get there by your absolute first preference, but they are
also
responsible for holding your hand on how to do it.  (And never mind
that
it's still eight months away, and by then they may very well have
instructions for how to skateboard there.)

Well, they're not responsible for that--you are.  And not by
complaining
here so that we end up doing all the work for you.
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Three other people, saying the following:

1) a bullheaded kvetch about Some People who don't
take Users of Public Transit into account.

2) Keith whines and complains, and then when people do all the
research
for him, still complains.

3) Well, they're not responsible for that--you are.  And not by
complaining
here so that we end up doing all the work for you.
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Feel free to deny a fairly common view here, but that would just make
you
an ostrich.

Andre