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Re: Evil Nazis

by David Friedman <ddfr@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 20, 2008 at 06:39 PM

In article <fugqem$hlk$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (William December Starr) wrote:

> In article <ddfr-0F8F45.19543210042008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> David Friedman <ddfr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
> 
> > In article <IAzLj.40507$rd2.2095@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > "Karl Johanson" <karljohanson@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, there would have been cases in both directions. Good
> >> point. And there would have been murderers who blamed some
> >> near by "witch" for what they'd done.
> >
> > If you are talking as early as the thirteenth or fourteenth
> > century, I don't think witchcraft would have been a major issue.
> > That's more a seventeenth century phenomenon.
> 
> Does that mean that there was far less of a tendency, in 13th or
> 14th century England/Europe, for accusations to fly of someone
> having used supernatural means to have caused another person's
> misfortune (e.g., illness or accident), or just that the accusations
> weren't of the same "flavor" as the cries of "Witch, witch!" of the
> 17th century?

As I understand it, someone in the 13th or 14th century who claimed that 
a witch had used powers given her by Satan to do such things would be 
guilty of heresy. I don't know to what extent people believed in magic 
of a less exalted sort. Certainly the pagan, and probably early 
Christian, Icelanders did--you can see it in the sagas, although not as 
a major element.

-- 
 http://www.daviddfriedman.com/
http://daviddfriedman.blogspot.com/
 Author of _Harald_, a fantasy without magic.
 Published by Baen, paperback in bookstores now
 




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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-04-06 17:23:36 
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mark <whitroth@[EMAIL   2008-04-06 17:39:30 
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Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-04-06 18:43:15 
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mark <whitroth@[EMAIL   2008-04-06 19:42:41 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-04-07 17:37:59 
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Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-04-07 18:12:12 
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Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-04-07 19:43:55 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-04-06 22:59:03 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-04-06 22:54:32 
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Joe Ellis <synthfilker  2008-04-07 00:05:01 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-04-06 23:29:40 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-04-07 21:18:42 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-04-07 22:06:29 
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Doug Wickstrom <nimshu  2008-04-07 21:29:20 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-04-07 22:51:41 
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mike weber <fairportfa  2008-04-08 08:32:07 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-08 13:10:33 
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mstemper@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-10 12:10:35 
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Doug Wickstrom <nimshu  2008-04-07 14:16:44 
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Will in New Haven <bil  2008-04-07 08:54:22 
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Andre Lieven <andrelie  2008-04-07 09:03:49 
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cryptoguy <treifamily@  2008-04-07 09:19:48 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-04-07 17:09:09 
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Andre Lieven <andrelie  2008-04-07 21:41:49 
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Andre Lieven <andrelie  2008-04-07 21:55:59 
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cryptoguy <treifamily@  2008-04-10 11:01:25 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-04-10 20:27:49 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-04-10 19:50:55 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-04-11 00:33:39 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-04-10 20:49:31 
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"Karl Johanson"  2008-04-11 01:58:00 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-04-10 19:54:32 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-20 21:25:42 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-04-20 18:39:36 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-04-20 22:15:52 
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David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-04-10 19:49:06 
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Harry Mary Andruschak <  2008-04-10 11:04:45 
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Kip Williams <kiptw@[E  2008-04-10 14:41:04 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-10 14:41:51 
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mark <whitroth@[EMAIL   2008-04-10 22:11:51 
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cryptoguy <treifamily@  2008-04-10 11:23:32 
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Douglas Berry <penguin  2008-04-06 16:41:03 
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Harry Mary Andruschak <  2008-04-07 00:01:56 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2008-04-07 21:16:27 
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jdnicoll@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-07 17:29:23 
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Doug Wickstrom <nimshu  2008-04-07 14:06:37 
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kevrob <AnSpideog@[EMA  2008-04-07 12:17:27 

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