Re: Overheard on the scanner

On May 7, 9:15=A0am, Howard S Shubs <how...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> In article <ddfr-67956F.22281706052...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> =A0David Friedman <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > In article <ku422495eagjrs5blfclu1fggvcni6c...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > =A0Douglas Berry <penguin_...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > > Seriously, someone vandalizes my property, comes onto my property
> > > univited and without permission.. they are going to meet Mr.
Shotgun.
>
> > That is, under current legal rules--probably under anglo-American law
> > going back well over a century--a very risky policy.
>
> Depends on location. =A0In some places, they'll cite the trespasser, if
he=

> survives, and the property owner will not be touched.
>
> > And if the person is coming onto your land uninvited and without
> > permission but not vandalizing, I don't think you have a hope of
winning=

> > in either a criminal or civil trial.
>
> Then you have much to learn, young Skywalker.

Cite? Can you point to some examples for each claim? Remember,
we're talking about outside, not in a house.

The 'vandalizing' point is the key - someone using an axe to
cut through my fence and then approach me, refusing to
stop and leave when so orderd, is a very different situation
from a kid  running across my lawn. In one, I have a
reasonable belief that I'm in danger, and can defend myself.
In the other, I don't.

If it were a real problem in my yard, I'd plant blackberry
hedges - nature's barbed wire.

The guns are for much more serious situations.

pt