Re: I've seen things you people wouldn't believe...

In article <lbu824p8cvh78kmkbg362edmg60m5fmmvk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> On Fri, 9 May 2008 07:33:42 -0700 (PDT), petertrei@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> 
> >On May 8, 3:14 pm, "David V. Loewe, Jr" <davelo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> <wire tapping, encryption and figuring out what was in a phone
> conversation>
> 
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_tap#Unofficial_use
> >
> >Don't change the subject.
> >
> >All the techniques referred to would require a prior physical break
> >in to implement. Different issue.
> 
> So, if you're encrypting your conversations and it's too big of a
> hassle to brute force, then you don't think that they can get a
> warrant to bug you?
> 
> >I was responding to your claim that the NSA can break any encryption.
> 
> You need to re-read what I wrote.

I have done so.

> If they REALLY want to know, they'll let the NSA play with it.  And
> they'll find out.  Trust me on this.

and later

> 1) How much computing power does the NSA have at it's disposal?
> 
> 2) You do understand that Keith is talking about real time encryption
> of telephone conversations, correct?

Both of those make it clear that your original claim was about the 
ability to decrypt, not about the ability to tap the call prior to 
encryption, which requires neither NSA expertise nor computer power. 

It turned out that someone in the conversation knew enormously more than 
you did about the subject, from which it became clear that your original 
claim was wrong. Instead of simply recognizing that you had made a 
mistake, you are trying to pretend--perhaps to yourself as well as 
us--that you didn't make your original claim.

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