Re: And how did you celebrate 1 May?

David Friedman wrote:
> In article <Ko2dnTUtuKxnk7zVnZ2dnUVZ_qmlnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>  mark <whitroth@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> David Friedman wrote:
>> > In article <pqedncnjv9Ij-oPVnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>> >  mark <whitroth@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> Sean O'Hara wrote:
>> >> > In the Year of the Earth Rat, the Great and Powerful Dan Goodman
>> >> > declared:
>> >> >> Keith F. Lynch wrote:
>> >> >>> Dan Goodman <dsgood@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> >>>> With the Nazis, it was a matter of principle.
>> >> >>> Same with the Communists.  With Nazis it was race; with
Communists
>> >> >>> it was social class.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> No, it was a mere matter of policy.
>> >> > 
>> >> > Look at the current debate between Russia and the Ukraine about
>> >> > whether the engineered famine of the '30s was genocide. The
Russians
>> >> > claim it wasn't on the grounds that they weren't singling out any
>> >> > ethnicity -- they were persecuting them based upon their refusal
to
>> >> > go along with collectivization. In other words, it was a policy
>> >> > based upon the principles of Communism.
>> >> 
>> >> I'm not a Communist, but I don't think that was the "principles of
>> >> Communism". More correctly, those were the "principles" of a
homicidal
>> >> psychopath.
>> > 
>> > But then, the same could be said for the Final Solution, mutatis
>> > mutandis.
>> > 
>> > We have a sample of one independent Nazi government. We have a larger
>> 
>> Ah, but we have a larger sample of fascist governments (and would you
>> personally care to live under one?).
> 
> No. But I don't think any of the others engaged in killing on a
> Hitler/Stalin/Pol Pot sort of scale. Which I think was the question
> being discussed.
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> Other than Hitler, what dictatorships that you would consider right wing
> have killed on that scale? There have been lots of governments of one
> sort or another that killed hundreds or thousands of people, very few
> that killed millions--or hundreds of thousands out of a smaller
> population.

Um, Franco?

        mark