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Re: PC--What is it good for?

by Alan Jenkins <alan-jenkins@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 9, 2007 at 05:15 AM

On Dec 9, 11:03 am, "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
> By PC I mean "personal computer", be it Windows OS, Mac OS, Linux OS or
even
> Amiga OS, what are personal computers good for? Considering the backlash
> against Windows Vista, I was wondering, what's the point? Aside from
> increased security, there seemed to be little reason to upgrade other
than
> semi-transparent window interfaces, that 3d task windows interface and
video
> wallpaper. Four gigs of ram for that? What's the point? And then I
> considered the question more generally:
>
> Long a stable of science fiction, yet what's left conceptually and
> pragmatically for home or personal computers to do? should do?
>
> What functionality is there left to put into their base operating
systems?

Dividing computers into "base operating systems" and "applications" is
of limited use.  It's a commercial / packaging distinction, not a
technical one.  Technically, you can take Windows and rip out Internet
Explorer, Media Player, and the "shell" - start menu, task bar, window
frames & decorations - and replace them with your own.  Even then,
you're still using the Win32 API which sits in userspace, much of it
implemented outside the privileged kernel which actually accesses
hardware.

As far as most users are concerned, Google web search - or maybe the
Microsoft web search - is effectively part of their "base operating
system", even though it doesn't run on their computer!

Step back and consider the system as a whole.  E.g. if most of the
applications you actually use require administrator access to run,
they're going to bypass most of the security provided by the "base
operating system" - and thats not a hypothetical example.
 




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David Johnston <david@  2007-12-12 01:54:47 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-10 17:36:47 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 00:23:30 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 03:01:45 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 00:30:13 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-11 09:49:25 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 02:58:14 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 01:00:39 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-11 10:10:57 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 03:20:20 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-11 18:16:36 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 21:52:38 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-12 05:32:59 
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David Johnston <david@  2007-12-12 21:36:48 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 19:49:37 
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David Johnston <david@  2007-12-12 05:17:29 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 01:46:46 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-11 04:39:47 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 06:43:53 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-11 17:42:53 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 22:04:35 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 10:46:02 
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David Johnston <david@  2007-12-11 19:22:25 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-11 18:20:04 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 10:58:50 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-11 18:34:26 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-12 03:03:16 
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ilya2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-12-12 13:36:07 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-16 03:48:17 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2007-12-16 19:14:17 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-16 12:32:17 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2007-12-16 20:46:20 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-17 03:20:55 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-17 18:40:44 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-17 18:08:35 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2007-12-17 21:50:11 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-17 21:14:16 
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Monkey boy <yeeyeeyee@  2007-12-17 22:09:24 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-17 19:44:45 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-18 17:11:41 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-18 21:40:00 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-17 18:07:35 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2007-12-17 21:41:01 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-17 21:12:22 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2007-12-18 22:11:14 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-18 21:25:59 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-18 21:47:13 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-12-20 01:50:41 
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Terry Austin <terry.no  2007-12-21 04:01:01 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-18 00:15:31 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-18 03:23:53 
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Jack Tingle <wjtingle@  2007-12-18 10:24:00 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-18 17:38:39 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-18 21:50:52 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-19 20:57:53 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-20 08:35:21 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-20 12:06:16 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-19 10:22:11 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-19 06:36:54 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-19 17:07:03 
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Kurt Busiek <kurt@[EMA  2007-12-19 09:04:25 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-19 18:14:42 
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Kurt Busiek <kurt@[EMA  2007-12-19 11:17:15 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-19 21:41:57 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-20 19:11:14 
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Kurt Busiek <kurt@[EMA  2007-12-20 18:14:24 
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"Mike Schilling"  2007-12-19 09:31:18 
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"Brion K. Lienhart&q  2007-12-19 12:24:56 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-19 19:51:15 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-20 06:12:02 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-20 18:31:48 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-20 21:29:29 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-21 07:08:35 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-21 15:27:03 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-21 17:43:52 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-22 01:46:46 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-22 08:53:01 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-22 14:56:52 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-22 09:49:23 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-22 18:37:24 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-23 00:52:06 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-23 02:55:28 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-23 16:12:33 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-23 12:27:59 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2007-12-23 15:46:12 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-24 01:15:50 
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Walter Bushell <proto@  2007-12-24 13:14:52 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-24 14:53:07 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-23 20:48:09 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-24 02:32:05 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-23 16:12:09 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-24 13:49:21 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-24 16:18:14 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-24 10:31:28 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2007-12-24 13:25:09 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-24 18:24:06 
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"pullo" <pul  2007-12-24 13:34:32 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2007-12-24 19:02:15 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-25 04:07:11 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-25 17:01:36 
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Robert Hutchinson <ser  2007-12-25 19:50:41 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-24 14:10:31 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-24 21:44:30 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-25 17:00:07 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-26 05:23:36 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-26 06:20:30 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-26 18:59:47 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-26 19:21:05 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-27 02:43:59 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-26 23:29:34 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-27 15:22:03 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-27 03:45:56 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-27 22:23:38 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2007-12-27 08:43:45 
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"James Gassaway"  2007-12-26 12:54:12 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-26 21:24:19 
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"James Gassaway"  2007-12-26 17:31:09 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-27 01:48:18 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-25 14:19:14 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-22 07:09:30 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-22 09:54:17 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-24 13:56:09 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-24 10:30:38 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-25 14:22:07 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-12-25 17:56:01 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-26 06:22:36 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-27 16:44:54 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-24 13:51:18 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-24 09:05:05 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-25 09:48:30 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-25 13:23:30 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2007-12-26 23:13:25 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-27 16:46:31 
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mchary@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-12-27 19:31:59 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2007-12-27 20:32:24 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-27 22:30:20 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-27 14:01:00 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-27 16:46:03 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2007-12-29 23:48:48 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-12-22 00:15:54 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-13 02:30:25 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-13 08:04:32 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-14 05:24:16 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-15 05:25:31 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-15 08:25:52 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-18 00:01:38 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-18 03:21:35 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-18 12:49:12 
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"pullo" <pul  2007-12-15 17:05:29 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-15 19:22:51 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-16 01:18:33 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2007-12-16 13:58:40 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2007-12-16 19:04:44 
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"Brion K. Lienhart&q  2007-12-16 13:10:44 
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Al Gore <usenet0000000  2007-12-16 16:09:00 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2007-12-16 20:54:54 
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"Brion K. Lienhart&q  2007-12-17 10:42:32 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2007-12-17 14:19:10 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-17 18:59:31 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-17 22:05:11 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-17 22:20:50 
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