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Re: PC--What is it good for?

by "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 9, 2007 at 09:35 AM

"Alan Jenkins" <alan-jenkins@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:d44e7e81-3b96-44e0-836f-b4b54c3dcc12@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Dec 9, 11:03 am, "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>> By PC I mean "personal computer", be it Windows OS, Mac OS, Linux OS or

>> even
>> Amiga OS, what are personal computers good for? Considering the
backlash
>> against Windows Vista, I was wondering, what's the point? Aside from
>> increased security, there seemed to be little reason to upgrade other 
>> than
>> semi-transparent window interfaces, that 3d task windows interface and 
>> video
>> wallpaper. Four gigs of ram for that? What's the point? And then I
>> considered the question more generally:
>>
>> Long a stable of science fiction, yet what's left conceptually and
>> pragmatically for home or personal computers to do? should do?
>
> I think you mean staple.
>
> Theres a lot that could still be done with security, reliability, and
> HCI ("user friendliness").  It would be a paradigm ****ft if the
> proverbial Grandmother could pick up a fully functional computer,
> learn how to use it, AND maintain it.

HCI? Human Control Interface?

> I can't think of much which could be done but hasn't.  On the other
> hand, SF is often concerned more with the societal impact of
> technology than its general capability.  If only a few geeks use a
> particular feature, its not very interesting unless its part of a plot
> for world domination.
>
> I think the social Internet is still due a revision or two.  If you
> look at the current fads e.g. Facebook & Youtube, much of the
> communication is quite facile, and the channels which might be used
> for less facile communication aren't sup****ted consistently.

That seems more software or hosted programming than something done 
locally--ala the old school "dumb terminals".

> I'm thinking in particular of "comments" on Youtube, which look like
> what you'd get if you took newsgroups and eliminated every scrap of
> intelligent conversation, and the abysmal sup****t for email
> notifications of Facebook messages.  The social internet started with
> email and newsgroups; I can understand why separate systems with
> reduced functionality became popular but I don't have to like it.
>
> In another ten years you'll still recognize the desktop PC's and what
> they can do, but with luck you'll still be surprised at what people do
> with them.

Agreed. It's a cog, but what's the "core" functions and what are optional 
addons / programs to it? That's the trouble Microsoft got in trouble with
in 
the 90s, blurring the definition between OS and applications.

-- Ken from Chicago
 




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PC--What is it good for?
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-09 05:03:38 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
Alan Jenkins <alan-jen  2007-12-09 05:02:31 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-09 09:35:14 
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Alan Jenkins <alan-jen  2007-12-09 05:15:47 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2007-12-09 09:06:22 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-09 09:31:24 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 03:08:48 
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"Avoid normal situat  2008-01-28 15:16:09 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-10 19:28:32 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 22:02:21 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 21:58:22 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 21:54:26 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 21:55:23 
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"C.O. Jones" &l  2007-12-12 09:44:24 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-12 19:17:11 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-12 19:36:30 
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"C.O. Jones" &l  2007-12-13 09:34:30 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-13 19:23:49 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-15 13:34:29 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2007-12-14 21:31:34 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-14 06:36:04 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-12 05:19:05 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-12 19:19:48 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-16 01:22:35 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2007-12-14 21:10:47 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-14 06:46:39 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-14 07:11:13 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-14 06:44:45 
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"Steven L." <  2007-12-09 11:26:43 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2007-12-09 18:05:04 
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"C.O. Jones" &l  2007-12-09 13:26:54 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-09 19:40:44 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-09 19:38:38 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-12-13 01:42:41 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2007-12-13 15:55:54 
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ncwaite@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-12-10 02:04:01 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-10 06:00:20 
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Robert Carnegie <rja.c  2007-12-10 08:43:05 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2007-12-10 13:39:33 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-10 09:56:54 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-10 19:26:00 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-11 08:15:38 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 17:34:03 
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David Johnston <david@  2007-12-12 01:54:47 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-10 17:36:47 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 00:23:30 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 03:01:45 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 00:30:13 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-11 09:49:25 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 02:58:14 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 01:00:39 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-11 10:10:57 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 03:20:20 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-11 18:16:36 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 21:52:38 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-12 05:32:59 
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David Johnston <david@  2007-12-12 21:36:48 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 19:49:37 
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David Johnston <david@  2007-12-12 05:17:29 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 01:46:46 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-11 04:39:47 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 06:43:53 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-11 17:42:53 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 22:04:35 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 10:46:02 
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David Johnston <david@  2007-12-11 19:22:25 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-11 18:20:04 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 10:58:50 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-11 18:34:26 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-12 03:03:16 
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ilya2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-12-12 13:36:07 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-16 03:48:17 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2007-12-16 19:14:17 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-16 12:32:17 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2007-12-16 20:46:20 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-17 03:20:55 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-17 18:40:44 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-17 18:08:35 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2007-12-17 21:50:11 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-17 21:14:16 
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Monkey boy <yeeyeeyee@  2007-12-17 22:09:24 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-17 19:44:45 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-18 17:11:41 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-18 21:40:00 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-17 18:07:35 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2007-12-17 21:41:01 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-17 21:12:22 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2007-12-18 22:11:14 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-18 21:25:59 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-18 21:47:13 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-12-20 01:50:41 
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Terry Austin <terry.no  2007-12-21 04:01:01 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-18 00:15:31 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-18 03:23:53 
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Jack Tingle <wjtingle@  2007-12-18 10:24:00 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-18 17:38:39 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-18 21:50:52 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-19 20:57:53 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-20 08:35:21 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-20 12:06:16 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-19 10:22:11 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-19 06:36:54 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-19 17:07:03 
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Kurt Busiek <kurt@[EMA  2007-12-19 09:04:25 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-19 18:14:42 
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Kurt Busiek <kurt@[EMA  2007-12-19 11:17:15 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-19 21:41:57 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-20 19:11:14 
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Kurt Busiek <kurt@[EMA  2007-12-20 18:14:24 
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"Mike Schilling"  2007-12-19 09:31:18 
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"Brion K. Lienhart&q  2007-12-19 12:24:56 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-19 19:51:15 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-20 06:12:02 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-20 18:31:48 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-20 21:29:29 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-21 07:08:35 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-21 15:27:03 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-21 17:43:52 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-22 01:46:46 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-22 08:53:01 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-22 14:56:52 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-22 09:49:23 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-22 18:37:24 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-23 00:52:06 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-23 02:55:28 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-23 16:12:33 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-23 12:27:59 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2007-12-23 15:46:12 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-24 01:15:50 
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Walter Bushell <proto@  2007-12-24 13:14:52 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-24 14:53:07 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-23 20:48:09 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-24 02:32:05 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-23 16:12:09 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-24 13:49:21 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-24 16:18:14 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-24 10:31:28 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2007-12-24 13:25:09 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-24 18:24:06 
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"pullo" <pul  2007-12-24 13:34:32 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2007-12-24 19:02:15 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-25 04:07:11 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-25 17:01:36 
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Robert Hutchinson <ser  2007-12-25 19:50:41 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-24 14:10:31 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-24 21:44:30 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-25 17:00:07 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-26 05:23:36 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-26 06:20:30 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-26 18:59:47 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-26 19:21:05 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-27 02:43:59 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-26 23:29:34 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-27 15:22:03 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-27 03:45:56 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-27 22:23:38 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2007-12-27 08:43:45 
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"James Gassaway"  2007-12-26 12:54:12 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-26 21:24:19 
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"James Gassaway"  2007-12-26 17:31:09 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-27 01:48:18 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-25 14:19:14 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-22 07:09:30 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-22 09:54:17 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-24 13:56:09 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-24 10:30:38 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-25 14:22:07 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-12-25 17:56:01 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-26 06:22:36 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-27 16:44:54 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-24 13:51:18 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-24 09:05:05 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-25 09:48:30 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-25 13:23:30 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2007-12-26 23:13:25 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-27 16:46:31 
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mchary@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-12-27 19:31:59 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2007-12-27 20:32:24 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-27 22:30:20 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-27 14:01:00 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-27 16:46:03 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2007-12-29 23:48:48 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-12-22 00:15:54 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-13 02:30:25 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-13 08:04:32 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-14 05:24:16 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-15 05:25:31 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-15 08:25:52 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-18 00:01:38 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-18 03:21:35 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-18 12:49:12 
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"pullo" <pul  2007-12-15 17:05:29 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-15 19:22:51 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-16 01:18:33 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2007-12-16 13:58:40 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2007-12-16 19:04:44 
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"Brion K. Lienhart&q  2007-12-16 13:10:44 
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Al Gore <usenet0000000  2007-12-16 16:09:00 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2007-12-16 20:54:54 
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"Brion K. Lienhart&q  2007-12-17 10:42:32 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2007-12-17 14:19:10