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Re: PC--What is it good for?

by lurking horror <lurkinghorror@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 11, 2007 at 01:39 PM

In article <slrnfltlk5.ue2.dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, David DeLaney
<dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> lurking horror <lurkinghorror@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> > Why is it that visions of highly computerised future everyday life 
> >> > always go along with a 1960s vision of family life?
> >> > mawa
> >
> >And, WTF, "1960s vision of family life?" There won't be a mom, dad and
> >Junior in the near future?
> 
> There's a good chance there's not a mom, dad, and Junior all in the same
place
> at the same time NOW. 

In an actual. "real" non-cynical view of the world, there are MANY
families that live together, in the same house, spending the nights at
home, dinner, etc. Junior Pimpleface spending the day at the mall does
not qualify, if he still lives at home.

And, duh. For those among you that weren't there, in the reality of
1960's family life, there were plenty of divorced, separated,
teen=pregnant runaway and other such familys. Very few people actually
lived the REAL life that the Cleavers ****trayed.

> That's why mawa said "1960s version" and not "1990s
> version" or "current version". We are loooong past the days when the
> stereotype of the nuclear family had real teeth in it because once you
were married, you
> didn't get divorced and you DID have children or else...

As well aware of the current reality of homelife as I am, it seems the
view of what is a family is being unrealistically viewed in a context
of what people THINK it is, as to how it really is. The catch is, I
suppose, that no one (especially me) is trying to say that EVERY modern
family is like this, but that the AVERAGE (statistically speaking) is
still, more often than not, TWO parental figures, and one or more
dependent. Whether dad smokes a pipe, or mom wears pearls has nothing
to do with it.

I think the telling ****tion of this whole bit was the word
"stereotype," although I am not sure how referring to a mom a dad and
Junior called that into being. The magic of seeing more than what is
actually there, I suppose. Not to mention the unrealistic "stereotype"
of what people obviously THINK the families of the 60's was, but
weren't.

-- 
In times like these, it helps to recall that there have always been times
like
these.
            -- Paul Harvey
 




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PC--What is it good for?
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-09 05:03:38 
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Alan Jenkins <alan-jen  2007-12-09 05:02:31 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-09 09:35:14 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-09 09:31:24 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 21:44:38 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 03:08:48 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-11 18:42:11 
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lurking horror <lurkin  2007-12-11 10:38:06 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-10 19:28:32 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-12 19:17:11 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-12 05:19:05 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-14 06:46:39 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-10 06:00:20 
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Robert Carnegie <rja.c  2007-12-10 08:43:05 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2007-12-10 13:39:33 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-10 09:56:54 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-10 19:26:00 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-11 08:15:38 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 17:34:03 
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David Johnston <david@  2007-12-12 01:54:47 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-10 17:36:47 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 00:23:30 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 03:01:45 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 00:30:13 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-11 09:49:25 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 02:58:14 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 01:00:39 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-11 10:10:57 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 03:20:20 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-11 18:16:36 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 21:52:38 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-12 05:32:59 
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David Johnston <david@  2007-12-12 21:36:48 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 19:49:37 
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David Johnston <david@  2007-12-12 05:17:29 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 01:46:46 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-11 04:39:47 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 06:43:53 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-11 17:42:53 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-11 22:04:35 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 10:46:02 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
David Johnston <david@  2007-12-11 19:22:25 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-11 18:20:04 
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Gene Ward Smith <genew  2007-12-11 10:58:50 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-11 18:34:26 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-12 03:03:16 
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ilya2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-12-12 13:36:07 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-16 03:48:17 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
Matthias Warkus <Warku  2007-12-16 19:14:17 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-16 12:32:17 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2007-12-16 20:46:20 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-17 03:20:55 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-17 18:40:44 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-17 18:08:35 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2007-12-17 21:50:11 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-17 21:14:16 
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Monkey boy <yeeyeeyee@  2007-12-17 22:09:24 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-17 19:44:45 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-18 17:11:41 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-18 21:40:00 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-17 18:07:35 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2007-12-17 21:41:01 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-17 21:12:22 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2007-12-18 22:11:14 
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No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-18 21:25:59 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-18 21:47:13 
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Tim Bruening <tsbrueni  2007-12-20 01:50:41 
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Terry Austin <terry.no  2007-12-21 04:01:01 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-18 00:15:31 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-18 03:23:53 
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Jack Tingle <wjtingle@  2007-12-18 10:24:00 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-18 17:38:39 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-18 21:50:52 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-19 20:57:53 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-20 08:35:21 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-20 12:06:16 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-19 10:22:11 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-19 06:36:54 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-19 17:07:03 
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Kurt Busiek <kurt@[EMA  2007-12-19 09:04:25 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-19 18:14:42 
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Kurt Busiek <kurt@[EMA  2007-12-19 11:17:15 
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Peter Bruells <usernet  2007-12-19 21:41:57 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-20 19:11:14 
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Kurt Busiek <kurt@[EMA  2007-12-20 18:14:24 
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"Mike Schilling"  2007-12-19 09:31:18 
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"Brion K. Lienhart&q  2007-12-19 12:24:56 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-19 19:51:15 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-20 06:12:02 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-20 18:31:48 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-20 21:29:29 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-21 07:08:35 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-21 15:27:03 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-21 17:43:52 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-22 01:46:46 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-22 08:53:01 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-22 14:56:52 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-22 09:49:23 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-22 18:37:24 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-23 00:52:06 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-23 02:55:28 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-23 16:12:33 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-23 12:27:59 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2007-12-23 15:46:12 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-24 01:15:50 
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Walter Bushell <proto@  2007-12-24 13:14:52 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-24 14:53:07 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-23 20:48:09 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-24 02:32:05 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-23 16:12:09 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-24 13:49:21 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-24 16:18:14 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-24 10:31:28 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2007-12-24 13:25:09 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-24 18:24:06 
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"pullo" <pul  2007-12-24 13:34:32 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2007-12-24 19:02:15 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-25 04:07:11 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-25 17:01:36 
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Robert Hutchinson <ser  2007-12-25 19:50:41 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-24 14:10:31 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-24 21:44:30 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-25 17:00:07 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-26 05:23:36 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-26 06:20:30 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-26 18:59:47 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-26 19:21:05 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-27 02:43:59 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-26 23:29:34 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-27 15:22:03 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-27 03:45:56 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-27 22:23:38 
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Sea Wasp <seawaspObvio  2007-12-27 08:43:45 
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"James Gassaway"  2007-12-26 12:54:12 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-26 21:24:19 
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"James Gassaway"  2007-12-26 17:31:09 
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peachy ashie passion <  2007-12-27 01:48:18 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-25 14:19:14 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-22 07:09:30 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-22 09:54:17 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-24 13:56:09 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-24 10:30:38 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-25 14:22:07 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-12-25 17:56:01 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-26 06:22:36 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-27 16:44:54 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-24 13:51:18 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-24 09:05:05 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-25 09:48:30 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-25 13:23:30 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2007-12-26 23:13:25 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-27 16:46:31 
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mchary@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-12-27 19:31:59 
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"Keith F. Lynch"  2007-12-27 20:32:24 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-12-27 22:30:20 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-27 14:01:00 
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-27 16:46:03 
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Jasper Janssen <jasper  2007-12-29 23:48:48 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-12-22 00:15:54 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-13 02:30:25 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-13 08:04:32 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-14 05:24:16 
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rja.carnegie@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-15 05:25:31 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-15 08:25:52 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-18 00:01:38 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-18 03:21:35 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-18 12:49:12 
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"pullo" <pul  2007-12-15 17:05:29 
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Howard Brazee <howard@  2007-12-15 19:22:51 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2007-12-16 01:18:33 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
Jasper Janssen <jasper  2007-12-16 13:58:40 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2007-12-16 19:04:44 
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"Brion K. Lienhart&q  2007-12-16 13:10:44 
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Al Gore <usenet0000000  2007-12-16 16:09:00 
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dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2007-12-16 20:54:54 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
"Brion K. Lienhart&q  2007-12-17 10:42:32 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
dbd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2007-12-17 14:19:10 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
No 33 Secretary <terry  2007-12-17 18:59:31 
Re: PC--What is it good for?
peachy ashie passion <