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Re: The Spirit teaser--It's not on its way, it's here.

by Will Dockery <will.dockery@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 22, 2008 at 01:03 PM

On Apr 22, 2:23=A0pm, Tom wrote:
> On Apr 22, 1:10 pm, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Apr 21, 1:03 pm, ~consul wrote:
> > > and thus Howson inscribed ...
> > > > "Warchild" wrote...
>
> > >> Nothing like a Spirit story. =A0Will Eisner produced a color comic.
=
=A0You
> > > >> notice that the movie is no longer titled 'Will Eisner's The
Spirit=
' and
> > > >> that the logo no longer is in the style of the classic logos.
>
> > As I noted earlier, the ''classic'' Spirit logo is that there /was/ no
> > regular ''logo''... it changed with every story, and was a part of the
> > story/opening scene.
>
> > > > Funny that. I always forget that the Spirit was originally in
colour=
.. Until
> > > > the recent DC Archives, most of the reprints I'd seen were in b&w
- =
same
> > > > goes for most of Eisner's other works. I actually prefer the b&w
Spi=
rit but
> > > > I guess it's not what Eisner intended. Maybe Frank Miller was only
f=
amiliar
> > > > with the Kitchen Sink and Warren series ? =A0(Ok, no excuse
really)
>
> > > In Colour? Really? Huh. I've always seen it in B/W. I just thought
it =
always was. I mean, I did recall seeing some colour versions, but I
thought =
they were reprints ore recoloured from the B/W.
>
> > Well, the originals were a sort of /insert/ comic book type thing that
> > Sunday newspapers carried, with the usual four color all comics used
> > to use, most of the Warrens of the 1970s were b/w, then around 1984
> > Kitchen Sink began a chronological reprint series using eye-poppingly
> > lush color... the cut to b/w again since not many of us were buying
> > it, apparently.
>
> > The main thing that'll be the most difficult to deal with is the
> > endless appearances and personalisty/dialect of Ebony, which is just
> > downright racist by todays standards.
>
> > Maybe Miller will have him running around shouting, "I'm the Goddam
> > Ebony, mo-fo...''
>
> Considering Miller has gone all conservative since 9/11, I'd say

Eisner pretty much nails this All-Star Spirit many are afraid Miller
will produce -

''...The Criminal - an amusing page looking at the trend in fictional
characters appearing in the media during those times (Dirty Harry, The
Executioner, Marvel's The Punisher) whose methods of operation were
more brutal than the innocent days when The Spirit was being published
regularly.''

http://www.spiritdatabase.net/crimecon/crimecon1.jpg

> there's more than even odds Ebony will not be P.C.

Here's how Eisner himself handled an the perception of Ebony in the
modern era of 1973-

http://www.spiritdatabase.net/crimecon/crimecon3.jpg

Anyway, I've noticed a couple of people posting in this thread asking
questions on just what the Spirit is, or should be... and the site
these pages come from should be a good place it get up to speed on all
that -

http://www.spiritdatabase.net/index.shtml

--
Ozone Stigmata by Will Dockery (words) and Henry Conley (music). Will
Dockery - vocals, Henry Conley - guitar, Brian Fowler - mandolin
http://www.archive.org/details/OzoneStigmataByWillDockery




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The Spirit teaser--It's not on its way, it's here.
"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-04-20 06:18:12 
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"Pat O'Neill" &  2008-04-20 04:59:26 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-04-20 07:40:22 
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Bob Hughes <BOBHUGHES@  2008-04-20 09:32:49 
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Warchild <bob@[EMAIL P  2008-04-20 08:36:52 
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"Howson" <no  2008-04-20 16:33:26 
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~consul <consul@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 10:03:08 
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"Thomas Hejl Pilgaar  2008-04-21 20:11:26 
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Warchild <bob@[EMAIL P  2008-04-21 17:03:19 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-04-21 20:17:29 
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Warchild <bob@[EMAIL P  2008-04-21 22:08:18 
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"Howson" <no  2008-04-22 19:54:06 
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"Donnacha" <  2008-04-24 22:57:07 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-04-24 19:25:12 
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Forge <forge@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-20 11:10:33 
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"Howson" <no  2008-04-20 16:41:12 
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Daibhid Ceanaideach <d  2008-04-20 16:51:22 
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Forge <forge@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-20 15:14:18 
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Forge <forge@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-20 15:16:18 
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Bob Hughes <BOBHUGHES@  2008-04-20 13:15:55 
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Lilith <lilith@[EMAIL   2008-04-20 10:55:59 
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Bob Hughes <BOBHUGHES@  2008-04-20 13:26:20 
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Lilith <lilith@[EMAIL   2008-04-23 14:50:19 
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George Peatty <peattyg  2008-04-20 12:40:22 
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Bob Hughes <BOBHUGHES@  2008-04-20 13:30:28 
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Warchild <bob@[EMAIL P  2008-04-20 15:16:09 
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Michael <thisspace@[EM  2008-04-20 14:07:04 
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"Pat O'Neill" &  2008-04-20 09:47:49 
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Bob Hughes <BOBHUGHES@  2008-04-20 13:19:08 
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Forge <forge@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-20 15:17:18 
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"Pat O'Neill" &  2008-04-20 09:53:18 
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Tom <drsoong@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-20 10:40:11 
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"Apocalypso" &l  2008-04-21 21:28:04 
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Duggy <Paul.Duggan@[EM  2008-04-20 15:15:03 
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"Pat O'Neill" &  2008-04-21 13:39:57 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-04-21 20:29:13 
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argento32 <aaronpynn32  2008-04-21 15:54:46 
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Duggy <Paul.Duggan@[EM  2008-04-21 16:54:52 
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George Peatty <peattyg  2008-04-21 20:21:51 
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~consul <consul@[EMAIL  2008-04-22 13:23:48 
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"Pat O'Neill" &  2008-04-21 18:19:19 
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"Pat O'Neill" &  2008-04-21 18:19:53 
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"Dennis Q. Wilson&qu  2008-04-21 18:58:10 
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Forge <forge@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-21 22:50:01 
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Michael <thisspace@[EM  2008-04-21 22:39:20 
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Michael <thisspace@[EM  2008-04-22 07:48:01 
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Will Dockery <will.doc  2008-04-22 00:33:41 
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Will Dockery <will.doc  2008-04-22 11:10:15 
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Tom <drsoong@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-22 11:23:00 
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Tom <drsoong@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-22 11:24:50 
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Will Dockery <will.doc  2008-04-22 13:03:46 
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Duggy <Paul.Duggan@[EM  2008-04-22 19:26:59 
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George Peatty <pttyg47  2008-04-23 07:25:02 
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Agent Smith <agent-smi  2008-04-24 21:16:42 
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Duggy <Paul.Duggan@[EM  2008-04-22 19:45:16 
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argento32 <aaronpynn32  2008-04-25 03:59:24 
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Eminence <grey.eminenc  2008-04-25 10:43:09 
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argento32 <aaronpynn32  2008-04-25 10:51:39 
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Duggy <Paul.Duggan@[EM  2008-04-25 21:47:14 
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argento32 <aaronpynn32  2008-04-26 05:39:28 
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Bill Steele <ws21@[EMA  2008-04-28 15:33:25 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-04-28 19:23:56 
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~consul <consul@[EMAIL  2008-04-30 12:40:30 
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Duggy <Paul.Duggan@[EM  2008-04-26 13:06:19 
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argento32 <aaronpynn32  2008-04-26 13:40:57 
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Will Dockery <will.doc  2008-04-27 01:30:31 
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"mholt@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-27 18:08:27 
Re: The Spirit --Eisner's charcters for modern times
Will Dockery <will.doc  2008-04-28 10:09:12 
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