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Re: The Spirit teaser--It's not on its way, it's here.

by Duggy <Paul.Duggan@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 22, 2008 at 07:45 PM

On Apr 22, 11:19 am, "Pat O'Neill" <patdone...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> De gustibus non est disputandum. I...and others I know...thought both
> films captured the spirit (sorry...) of the characters while having a
> sense of fun that made them acceptable to a wider audience. A
> straight, somber version of either would have been dismissed as drivel
> by the vast majority of movie goers.

This would be the vast majority of movie-goers who didn't go to either
one?

$45 million to make The Phantom, $17.3 million made back in the US.  I
don't know other countries, but that's way not enough.
$40 million to make The Shadow, $32 million made in the US.  Better,
but still not enough.

I can't talk too much about The Shadow, I don't really know the
original and the film was so murky and confused I don't remember much
of.

The Phantom, as a person who was reading the Australian reprints at
the time, and who had friends who don't like comics... it didn't work
for either.

The "sense of fun" wasn't a help, it was at the expense of the film.
"Hey, look, this is drivel" was the "fun" they were having.

Yes, the comic-fan audience is small, but they are the primary
audience.  They're the people walking in the door in the first week,
the people who create the buzz upon which a film lives or dies.

Sure, you have to make the film appeal to a wide audience, but only a
moron would do that at the expense of the people who are going to make
or break your film.

===
= DUG.
===




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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-04-20 06:18:12 
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"Pat O'Neill" &  2008-04-20 04:59:26 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-04-20 07:40:22 
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Bob Hughes <BOBHUGHES@  2008-04-20 09:32:49 
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Warchild <bob@[EMAIL P  2008-04-20 08:36:52 
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"Howson" <no  2008-04-20 16:33:26 
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~consul <consul@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 10:03:08 
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"Thomas Hejl Pilgaar  2008-04-21 20:11:26 
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Warchild <bob@[EMAIL P  2008-04-21 17:03:19 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-04-21 20:17:29 
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Warchild <bob@[EMAIL P  2008-04-21 22:08:18 
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"Howson" <no  2008-04-22 19:54:06 
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"Donnacha" <  2008-04-24 22:57:07 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-04-24 19:25:12 
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Forge <forge@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-20 11:10:33 
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"Howson" <no  2008-04-20 16:41:12 
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Daibhid Ceanaideach <d  2008-04-20 16:51:22 
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Forge <forge@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-20 15:14:18 
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Bob Hughes <BOBHUGHES@  2008-04-20 13:15:55 
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Lilith <lilith@[EMAIL   2008-04-20 10:55:59 
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Bob Hughes <BOBHUGHES@  2008-04-20 13:26:20 
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Lilith <lilith@[EMAIL   2008-04-23 14:50:19 
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George Peatty <peattyg  2008-04-20 12:40:22 
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Bob Hughes <BOBHUGHES@  2008-04-20 13:30:28 
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Warchild <bob@[EMAIL P  2008-04-20 15:16:09 
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Michael <thisspace@[EM  2008-04-20 14:07:04 
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"Pat O'Neill" &  2008-04-20 09:47:49 
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Bob Hughes <BOBHUGHES@  2008-04-20 13:19:08 
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Forge <forge@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-20 15:17:18 
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"Pat O'Neill" &  2008-04-20 09:53:18 
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Tom <drsoong@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-20 10:40:11 
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"Apocalypso" &l  2008-04-21 21:28:04 
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Duggy <Paul.Duggan@[EM  2008-04-20 15:15:03 
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"Pat O'Neill" &  2008-04-21 13:39:57 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2008-04-21 20:29:13 
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argento32 <aaronpynn32  2008-04-21 15:54:46 
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Duggy <Paul.Duggan@[EM  2008-04-21 16:54:52 
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George Peatty <peattyg  2008-04-21 20:21:51 
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~consul <consul@[EMAIL  2008-04-22 13:23:48 
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"Pat O'Neill" &  2008-04-21 18:19:19 
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"Pat O'Neill" &  2008-04-21 18:19:53 
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"Dennis Q. Wilson&qu  2008-04-21 18:58:10 
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Forge <forge@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-21 22:50:01 
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Michael <thisspace@[EM  2008-04-21 22:39:20 
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Michael <thisspace@[EM  2008-04-22 07:48:01 
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Will Dockery <will.doc  2008-04-22 00:33:41 
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Will Dockery <will.doc  2008-04-22 11:10:15 
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Tom <drsoong@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-22 11:23:00 
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Tom <drsoong@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-22 11:24:50 
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Will Dockery <will.doc  2008-04-22 13:03:46 
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Duggy <Paul.Duggan@[EM  2008-04-22 19:26:59 
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George Peatty <pttyg47  2008-04-23 07:25:02 
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Agent Smith <agent-smi  2008-04-24 21:16:42 
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Duggy <Paul.Duggan@[EM  2008-04-22 19:45:16 
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argento32 <aaronpynn32  2008-04-25 03:59:24 
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Eminence <grey.eminenc  2008-04-25 10:43:09 
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argento32 <aaronpynn32  2008-04-25 10:51:39 
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Duggy <Paul.Duggan@[EM  2008-04-25 21:47:14 
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argento32 <aaronpynn32  2008-04-26 05:39:28 
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~consul <consul@[EMAIL  2008-04-30 12:40:30 
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