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Re: anachronisms?

by mcv <mcvmcv@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 14, 2008 at 07:57 AM

bernardZ <BernardZ@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> In article <47892d13$0$85785$e4fe514c@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, mcvmcv@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
> says...
>> bealoid <signup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Any storage media in movies looks a bit odd to me - floppy disks look

>> > really old, but even standard optical media (which could be some form
of 
>> > 'super DVD') look old fa****oned.  Using a smaller size optical media 
>> > doesn't help either.
>> 
>> I thought they usually used some sort of crystal as storage medium.
>> The problem is that it's usually a small, ****d crystal with no
>> obvious place to stick a label.
>> 
>> While reading Asimov's _Second Foundation_, the book proudly described
>> a really clever system that made it really easy for relatively
untrained
>> people to figure out exactly where in the galaxy they are. Before the
>> invention of that item, figuring out your location took days or weeks,
>> but all I was thinking was: if this process is this simple, why the
>> hell isn't it automated in the first place?
>> 
>> Science fiction almost always falls short when it comes to computers
>> and automation.
> 
> Why?
> 
> In the days of sailing ****ps to navigate you used dead reckoning. It was

> accurate. However it took much work. Always you needed to have skilled 
> people on-the-job recording your speed and direction. Then the figures 
> had to be tabulated. It was simple but complex to do. Then Harrison came

> up with a clock. 

Exactly. The invention of accurate clocks and, more relevantly, computers
makes time-consuming navigation by hand obsolete. Nowadays nobody uses
Harrison's clock; it's GPS now. If you've got a big database of spectral
signatures of all major stars and a good way to match them with actual
stars you see (as is the case in Second Foundation), it's silly to still
have to match them up by hand. Have a computer do that.

But like I said, SF tends to fall short when it comes to computers and
automation. Unless AIs are involved, ofcourse.


mcv.
-- 
Science is not the be-all and end-all of human existence. It's a tool.
A very powerful tool, but not the only tool. And if only that which
could be verified scientifically was considered real, then nearly all
of human experience would be not-real.                  -- Zachriel
 




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anachronisms?
bealoid <signup@[EMAIL  2008-01-12 11:05:33 
Re: anachronisms?
John Schilling <schill  2008-01-12 07:07:49 
Re: anachronisms?
mcv <mcvmcv@[EMAIL PRO  2008-01-12 21:11:47 
Re: anachronisms?
bernardZ <BernardZ@[EM  2008-01-13 19:48:31 
Re: anachronisms?
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-01-13 01:48:56 
Re: anachronisms?
Steve Hix <sehix@[EMAI  2008-01-13 10:52:36 
Re: anachronisms?
mcv <mcvmcv@[EMAIL PRO  2008-01-14 07:57:57 
Re: anachronisms?
bernardz <bernardz@[EM  2008-01-13 16:45:42 
Re: anachronisms?
John Schilling <schill  2008-01-15 16:55:12 
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nebusj-@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-01-14 08:39:06 
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bernardz <bernardz@[EM  2008-01-14 14:50:57 
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bernardz <bernardz@[EM  2008-01-15 21:46:50 
Re: anachronisms?
John Schilling <schill  2008-01-16 17:34:13 
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bernardZ <BernardZ@[EM  2008-01-17 20:43:02 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-01-17 17:54:26 
Re: anachronisms?
bernardz <bernardz@[EM  2008-01-15 21:48:24 
Re: anachronisms?
James Burns <burns.87@  2008-01-16 11:26:30 
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bernardz <bernardz@[EM  2008-01-16 15:13:32 
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bernardz <bernardz@[EM  2008-01-16 15:12:36 
Re: anachronisms?
John <themasterJ@[EMAI  2008-01-17 15:59:20 
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bernardz <bernardz@[EM  2008-01-17 21:05:37 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-01-12 17:08:29 
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wrosecrans <wrosecrans  2008-01-12 15:47:04 
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Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-01-15 06:42:36 
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David Johnston <david@  2008-01-15 07:15:38 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-01-13 19:48:23 
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Steve Hix <sehix@[EMAI  2008-01-13 17:20:31 
Re: anachronisms?
Samuel Penn <sam@[EMAI  2008-01-13 21:18:01 
Re: anachronisms?
Dr J R Stockton <jrs@[  2008-01-14 19:36:25 
Re: anachronisms?
bernardZ <BernardZ@[EM  2008-01-15 21:00:34 
Re: anachronisms?
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-01-15 03:02:20 
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nebusj-@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-01-15 11:21:20 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-01-14 23:53:37 
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bernardZ <BernardZ@[EM  2008-01-15 20:52:14 
Re: anachronisms?
David Johnston <david@  2008-01-15 07:12:27 
Re: anachronisms?
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-01-15 03:01:00 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-01-16 01:13:49 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-01-16 07:20:28 
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bernardZ <BernardZ@[EM  2008-01-16 23:25:13 
Re: anachronisms?
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-01-16 10:55:13 
Re: anachronisms?
Dr J R Stockton <jrs@[  2008-01-18 22:05:11 

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