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Re: Atomic bug bomb!

by Erik Max Francis <max@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 26, 2008 at 06:44 PM

Erik Max Francis wrote:

> Logan Kearsley wrote:
> 
>> Of course there is- neutrinos can do damage to your body by
>> transmuting the elements it's made of. You just need a stupidly huge
>> flux of neutrinos to get a noticeable effect, since absorption is so
>> low. If you were unlucky enough to be orbiting a star about to go
>> supernova, for example, the neutrino emissions would probably kill you
>> before anything else, seeing as how they can escape the core fairly
>> directly.
> 
> Yes, various calculations of the LD50 distance for a type II supernova 
> put it at about ~1-10 au.  Given that the neutrino pulse of is about 
> 10^46 J, that puts the LD50 energy (not power) flux at about 
> ~10^21-10^23 J/m^2.
> 
>> An eva****ating micro-blackhole ought to do the trick.
> 
> Not sure about that; as a primordial black hole shrinks, its temperature

> (and radiation power) rises, which means that the spectrum of radiation 
> (including which type of particles) cycles through "heavier" types of 
> radiation.  A black hole on the verge of eva****ation would likely be 
> emitting the vast majority of its energy in radiation types other than 
> neutrinos.  Whether they'd still be enough total radiation to compensate

> for the ****ft isn't clear to me.

Actually, even putting aside the change in radiation types, it still 
wouldn't work if you want a rapid burst.

Take the best-case numbers and choose type II supernova LD50 lethality 
at 10 au, which, with a 3 x 10^46 J burst of neutrinos, gives an LD50 
energy flux of 1 x 10^21 J/m^2 as a short-term, whole-body dose.  To 
make it 100% lethal, you'll have to crank it up quite a bit.  Say it 
only requires ten times as much, or 1 x 10^22 J/m^2.

Position your death hole near the surface of the Earth to minimize the 
distance to everyone on the planet; now the radiation emitted by the 
black hole has to be lethal at 12.7 Mm.  Therefore, the neutrino pulse 
from the black hole has to be 2 x 10^37 J.

Black holes convert their mass-energy into Hawking radiation, so that 
means you need a black hole with a mass of 2 x 10^20 kg.  But we need to 
catch the black hole as it's eva****ating -- or, more specifically, make 
sure that for a relatively short period of time (since it's a short-term 
dose) it emits enough energy in the form of neutrinos to get the correct 
dose.  But a black hole with a mass of 2 x 10^20 kg would only be 
emitting Hawking radiation at a rate of 2 x 10^12 W and wouldn't 
eva****ate for another 7 x 10^44 s = 2 x 10^37 yr (power scales as 1/m^2; 
eva****ation time scales as m^3)!  And, of course, we haven't even 
addressed the issue of the radiation spectrum changing -- not all of its 
radiation will be in neutrinos.

So no, a primordial black hole eva****ating nearby won't work.

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Atomic bug bomb!
Damien Valentine <vale  2008-01-26 12:13:31 
Re: Atomic bug bomb!
Robert Martinu <invali  2008-01-26 22:14:06 
Re: Atomic bug bomb!
Logan Kearsley <chrono  2008-01-26 15:03:25 
Re: Atomic bug bomb!
Aaron Bergman <abergma  2008-01-26 19:15:27 
Re: Atomic bug bomb!
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-01-26 18:01:53 
Re: Atomic bug bomb!
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-01-26 18:44:09 
Re: Atomic bug bomb!
WaltBJ <waltbj01@[EMAI  2008-01-26 15:53:33 
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"Sheerluck" <  2008-01-27 12:16:44 
Re: Atomic bug bomb!
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-01-27 04:22:09 
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bealoid <signup@[EMAIL  2008-01-27 14:18:27 
Re: Atomic bug bomb!
Damien Valentine <vale  2008-01-28 13:10:48 

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