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Re: back yard gene hacking?

by John Schilling <schillin@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 6, 2008 at 05:26 PM

On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:07:19 +0000, Mike Williams
<nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>Wasn't it  who wrote:
>>On Feb 5, 3:51 pm, Shawn Wilson <ikonoql...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> On Feb 4, 2:30 pm, bealoid <sig...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>>> > assume a well funded group, with staff and equipment.  (For example,
look
>>> > at someone like Aum Shin Ryko cult managing to aerosolise Anthrax
into air
>>> > for 24 hours.)

>>> > How hard is it for them to get a bunch of virus / bacteria / fungal
spores
>>> > and 'gene hack' them into something really vicious - spreads like
measles,
>>> > infects about 80% of people it contacts, kills 60% of infected
within 4
>>> > weeks, leaves the rest immune from future attacks, but with severly
>>> > compromised breathing (eg COPD) and with other weaknesses.

>>> Not too hard at all, with the right resources.  You don't even need
>>> gene hacking, just get your hands on samples of the 'Spanish Flu'.  Or
>>> Smallpox.  Or Plague (need fleas to spread that).

>>Yes, what exactly are the "right resources" to get into the best
>>guarded biolab in Russia and get away with it? Keeping in mind Tsar
>>Vlad's area of expertise and likely priorities?

>It might be possible to obtain Spanish Flu if you can find other Arctic 
>graves containing victims. Presumably the Longyearbyen Cemetery has been 
>made safe now, but since there were an estimated 50 million deaths, 
>there may well be other such graves, and they can't all have been found 
>and made safe.

That was basically Aum Shinrikyo's method of getting hold of a virulent
Anthrax strain, and it didn't work for them.  There's *lots* of bugs in
the wild, even if you look specifically in plague-stricken graveyards,
and the ones which grow best in even a tailored culture medium are not
the ones you're looking for.

There's a whole lot of trial and error involved in that approach, with
each trial a substantial expense and a non-trivial risk of discovery.  
Oh, and some of the errors will kill you.


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 12 Posts in Topic:
back yard gene hacking?
bealoid <signup@[EMAIL  2008-02-04 21:30:01 
Re: back yard gene hacking?
Mike Williams <nospam@  2008-02-05 04:56:30 
Re: back yard gene hacking?
Shawn Wilson <ikonoqla  2008-02-05 12:51:05 
Re: back yard gene hacking?
ilya2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-06 05:46:11 
Re: back yard gene hacking?
Shawn Wilson <ikonoqla  2008-02-08 14:20:47 
Re: back yard gene hacking?
bealoid <signup@[EMAIL  2008-02-08 23:30:00 
Re: back yard gene hacking?
John Schilling <schill  2008-02-05 18:52:09 
Re: back yard gene hacking?
Mike Williams <nospam@  2008-02-06 14:07:19 
Re: back yard gene hacking?
John Schilling <schill  2008-02-06 17:26:32 
Re: back yard gene hacking?
"Carey Sublette"  2008-02-17 06:50:12 
Re: back yard gene hacking?
Mike Williams <nospam@  2008-02-18 06:28:54 
Re: back yard gene hacking?
"Carey Sublette"  2008-02-18 09:39:43 

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