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Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel

by throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wayne Throop) Feb 8, 2008 at 06:30 PM

: Remus Shepherd <remus@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
: Here's your problem -- you'll never actually reach the speed of light.
: Acceleration will get you closer and closer, but you'll never actually
get
: there. 

More specifically, his problem is that he thinks being a rocket rather
than a particle in an accelerator will exempt the object from the velocity
addition rule.  For some rather handwaved and unclear reason.

Then further along, he makes the "fast moving objects become black holes"
fallacy, which is explained in the physics relativity FAQ.

The basic problem is because he's thinking of relativistic effects
as things that physically change objects.  That's misleading right
from the git-go.  Sure, length contraction "really" changes an object
when the object is viewed from the frame before the object accelerated.
But the object in and of itself is unchanged, and especially the "mass
increase" is only in the eye of the beholder, not in the object itself.

Further, whether an object accelerates "by itself" or by being in
an accelerator makes no difference.  Simply think of the accelerator
as a very heavy reaction mass (or the exhaust of a rocket as a very
very lightweight accelerator); they are fundamentally the same thing
underneath.


Wayne Throop   throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   http://sheol.org/throopw




 15 Posts in Topic:
The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Rodney <rodneyjkelly@[  2008-02-07 23:40:35 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Remus Shepherd <remus@  2008-02-08 15:12:35 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-08 18:30:42 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-08 15:08:28 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Rodney <rodneyjkelly@[  2008-02-08 16:19:42 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-08 17:06:36 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-09 00:41:38 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Luke Campbell <lwcamp@  2008-02-08 17:20:47 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-09 01:12:59 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Rodney <rodneyjkelly@[  2008-02-08 18:11:25 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-08 20:23:22 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-09 14:34:48 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-09 02:32:26 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Wim Lewis <wiml@[EMAIL  2008-02-10 10:43:34 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-02-11 08:44:26 

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