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Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel

by Erik Max Francis <max@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 8, 2008 at 03:08 PM

Rodney wrote:

>    In the above example, the atom is being accelerated by an external
> force, the accelerator. If instead of an atom, the object was some
> form of rocket, with it's own engines. Then the object would be acted
> on by an internal force. There would be no phase shift as the object
> is accelerated.   If such a vehicle was capable of 1G of acceleration
> at 0.01% the speed of light, then it would be capable of 1G of
> acceleration at 99.99%.   This acceleration would continue until the
> vehicle reached the speed of light, where the time dilation would be
> infinite, and time would stop.

Your handwaving about photons "phase shifting" (which didn't make much 
sense) doesn't really change the fact that an object travelling at close 
to the speed of light will experience "mass increase" (though it is not 
always phrased this way, but it is a valid way of looking at things in 
special relativity).  That mass increase diverges as the speed 
approaches that of light, making acceleration from below the speed of 
light to the speed of light impossible, since it would take an infinite 
amount of force.

It doesn't matter _how_ the object is accelerated; both the particle in 
a particle accelerator and a self-propelled rocket will experience the 
same relativistic effects, and these effects will prevent any particle 
with non-zero rest mass from accelerating to (or beyond) the speed of 
light from sublight speeds.  The mechanism doesn't matter, and the 
mechanism you discuss about photons "phase shifting" isn't correct, at 
any rate.

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The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Rodney <rodneyjkelly@[  2008-02-07 23:40:35 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Remus Shepherd <remus@  2008-02-08 15:12:35 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-08 18:30:42 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-08 15:08:28 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Rodney <rodneyjkelly@[  2008-02-08 16:19:42 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-08 17:06:36 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-09 00:41:38 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Luke Campbell <lwcamp@  2008-02-08 17:20:47 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-09 01:12:59 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Rodney <rodneyjkelly@[  2008-02-08 18:11:25 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-08 20:23:22 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-09 14:34:48 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-09 02:32:26 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Wim Lewis <wiml@[EMAIL  2008-02-10 10:43:34 
Re: The Generation of Wormholes for interstellar travel
Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-02-11 08:44:26 

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