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Re: OT: Wildepad

by John Schilling <schillin@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 15, 2008 at 02:28 PM

On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:55:24 -0600, Wildepad <noreplies> wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:47:06 GMT, Bryan Derksen
><bryan.derksen@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>>Wildepad wrote:
>>> Because of that, questioning the assumptions is an unwelcome and
>>> unnecessary distraction.

>>It's going to happen anyway because this is rec.arts.sf.science and not 
>>your own personal focus group that you can set the rules for.

>Absolutely true, but that doesn't make it pleasant. It's like going to
>have your teeth cleaned and ending up having a root canal.

And here's the critical point, you selfish bastard.  You've just described
the feeling every single one of us here has, when we read any post you
ever make to this newsgroup except possibly the very first post you make
in a new thread.


>Among my (many?) shortcomings is a low tolerance for people who attack
>for the sake of attack and my revulsion at the idea of posting a
>lengthy treatise on the research I did on an 'assumption' before
>including it in a scenario.

We attack, for the sake of chasing off the guy who insists on giving us
each an unending series of unwanted intellectual root canals.


>>> In other cases, I am interested in continuing the conversation for as
>>> long as it takes to get a productive answer.
>>
>>Frankly, I think you mean "as long as it takes to get the answer I 
>>want." This is not a productive use of debate.
>
>Productive, to me, is an answer which shows that the responder
>understood the premise and is willing to apply a bit of suspension of
>disbelief to place themselves in the protag's position.

Productive, to the rest of us, means creating an enjoyable experience,
*for us*.  Engaging in any discussion straightjacketed by your detailed
and arbitrary restrictions, is not enjoyable for us.  It does not produce
anything that we value.

If it produces something that *you* value, if indeed it is the only thing
that is not root-canal-unbearably-painful to you, then you're in a bit of
a pickle.  Because we are *not* going to undergo what is to *us* a very
unpleasant experience, just to "produce" a thing that is *only* of value
to *you*.

And understand this very clearly: the rigidly-constrained discussions of
arbitrary scenarios that you seem to want, are only of value to you.  They
do not entertain us, they do not interest us, the are of no value to us,
and they annoy us greatly.

So, I'm pretty sure we're not going to do that.  Not unless you give us a
much better reason than you have so far.  Otherwise, we'll just keep on
doing what it is that we enjoy, and if that's painful to you, then this
may not be the place for you to hang out.


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OT: Wildepad
Someone Else <someone.  2008-02-12 20:28:44 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-13 03:20:52 
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Someone Else <someone.  2008-02-12 22:49:45 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-13 05:45:17 
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bealoid <signup@[EMAIL  2008-02-13 11:29:05 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-13 17:29:48 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-13 04:50:05 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-13 05:39:23 
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Someone Else <someone.  2008-02-13 01:46:22 
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fairwater@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-13 07:48:58 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-13 01:52:06 
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fairwater@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-13 16:02:12 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-13 15:49:54 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-13 17:33:00 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-13 16:04:18 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-14 18:28:39 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-14 15:19:25 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-15 01:15:27 
Re: OT: Wildepad
bealoid <signup@[EMAIL  2008-02-13 11:27:25 
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IsaacKuo <mechdan@[EMA  2008-02-13 07:03:57 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-13 10:52:35 
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Someone Else <someone.  2008-02-13 14:05:58 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-13 14:27:56 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-13 16:04:52 
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Robert Martinu <invali  2008-02-13 18:13:26 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-13 16:01:28 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-13 19:25:36 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-14 18:47:06 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-14 17:55:24 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-15 00:12:09 
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bealoid <signup@[EMAIL  2008-02-15 14:11:30 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-15 17:33:55 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-17 02:08:32 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-17 17:01:10 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-17 20:53:35 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 18:28:09 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-14 18:37:39 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-15 00:42:53 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Jens Egon Nyborg <jens  2008-02-15 02:19:23 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-14 17:29:29 
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bealoid <signup@[EMAIL  2008-02-15 14:18:56 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-17 02:08:32 
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Robert Martinu <invali  2008-02-17 18:29:15 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-17 20:53:35 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Luke Campbell <lwcamp@  2008-02-22 17:09:02 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-23 22:54:15 
Re: OT: Wildepad
John Schilling <schill  2008-02-15 14:28:49 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-17 02:08:32 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-17 08:41:01 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-18 08:29:06 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-14 15:35:28 
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IsaacKuo <mechdan@[EMA  2008-02-18 08:16:53 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-18 19:44:13 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-22 09:09:31 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-22 18:28:07 
Re: OT: Wildepad
John Schilling <schill  2008-02-13 18:40:34 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2008-02-14 08:54:15 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-14 08:29:33 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-02-14 20:00:50 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2008-02-15 17:06:18 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Keith Morrison <keithm  2008-02-15 09:10:08 
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bealoid <signup@[EMAIL  2008-02-15 19:58:38 
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Russell Wallace <russe  2008-02-15 22:12:15 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-15 02:11:29 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-15 18:58:00 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-15 19:37:32 
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bealoid <signup@[EMAIL  2008-02-15 19:45:08 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-17 08:13:13 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-17 20:53:35 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Luke Campbell <lwcamp@  2008-02-24 10:47:16 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-24 14:08:54 
Re: OT: Wildepad
"Ash Wyllie" &l  2008-02-24 15:32:40 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-24 22:39:28 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-25 17:36:11 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-02-26 02:49:39 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-26 09:27:40 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-26 17:43:56 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-26 15:56:16 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-02-28 08:43:03 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-26 17:43:56 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-26 18:33:30 
Re: OT: Wildepad
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-18 05:11:27 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-19 14:27:30 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-19 13:23:09 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-20 13:32:02 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-20 19:55:53 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-02-21 09:49:40 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-21 16:16:04 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-21 19:03:31 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-02-22 08:40:49 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-22 18:28:07 
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af250@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-23 02:12:23 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-20 20:22:17 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-20 21:35:10 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-21 16:04:40 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-22 04:41:58 
Re: OT: Wildepad
Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-22 18:28:07 
Re: OT: Wildepad
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-27 00:36:23 

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