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Re: Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions

by Doc O'Leary <droleary.usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 16, 2008 at 10:51 AM

In article <1203133165.303653@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 Michael Ash <mike@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Any thoughts on the above?

I don't think it has anything to do with a lottery.  It really sounds 
like that's just a plucked example from the position that time travel 
*must* change the past.  From a plot device standpoint, the question is 
whether it changes history like a pebble in a stream, or more like a dam.

> It seems to me that a time traveler is going to have a better time in 
> s****ts betting or the stock market. Both of these are chaotic to some 
> extent but at least in the short term are based on more macroscopic 
> effects. Small changes in the players' brains won't change the fact that

> team A's defense is helpless against team B's offense, or that company X

> is going to announce earnings 50% higher than predicted the next day.

The more interesting paradox that you miss is that the effect of small 
changes of a lottery has a big ripple effect (turns $1 into $100 million 
for one person) while a small change in a stock price has a small ripple 
effect (turns $1 into maybe $2).  But that only matters to someone 
playing the game.  When it comes to "proving" a timeline, if you assume 
the physical laws of both scenarios are identical, it doesn't much 
matter which way you go because the lottery winner will *still* change, 
and that will further ripple to change the future in ways you cannot 
predict.

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 19 Posts in Topic:
Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-15 21:39:25 
Re: Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions
Arthur T. <arthur@[EMA  2008-02-15 23:38:52 
Re: Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions
Russell Wallace <russe  2008-02-16 04:46:14 
Re: Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions
Robert Martinu <invali  2008-02-16 05:52:20 
Re: Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-02-16 06:18:23 
Re: Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions
Mike Williams <nospam@  2008-02-16 06:06:40 
Re: Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions
Doc O'Leary <droleary.  2008-02-16 10:51:00 
Re: Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-16 20:20:47 
Re: Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions
Doc O'Leary <droleary.  2008-02-17 11:46:00 
Re: Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-17 13:34:54 
Re: Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions
Doc O'Leary <droleary.  2008-02-18 10:52:53 
Re: Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-18 13:21:44 
Re: Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions
Doc O'Leary <droleary.  2008-02-19 11:02:41 
Re: Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions
Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-02-18 09:24:35 
Re: Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-18 09:06:54 
Re: Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions
Dave Farrance <DaveFar  2008-02-17 20:55:51 
Re: Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-17 16:01:44 
Re: Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions
Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-02-18 09:19:05 
Re: Lottery drawings and sensitivity to initial conditions
Mike Williams <nospam@  2008-02-18 13:41:38 

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