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Re: The time traveler and conservation of mass and energy

by Erik Max Francis <max@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 18, 2008 at 12:22 PM

bernardZ wrote:

> General relativity was published by Albert Einstein in 1915/16. Albert 
> Einstein only adopted the big bang theory long after trying several 
> other alternatives first.

This is incorrect on several levels.

Hubble first discovered the red****ft of galaxies in 1918, and the Hubble 
law relating red****ft to distance in 1929.  Those resulted in the 
development of the Big Bang theory, so there was no such thing at the 
time that Einstein was developing general relativity.

Indeed, at the time, the conventional wisdom was that the Universe was 
finite in size and static and had been around forever.  However, when 
applying general relativity to cosmology, Einstein discovered that his 
new theory predicted dynamic cosmologies:  expanding or contracting 
ones, but not static ones.  Instead of going with what his theory 
predicted, Einstein added a fudge factor, the cosmological constant, so 
that his theory could result in static universes.  Not paying attention 
to what his theory was telling him and introducing the fudge factor was 
what he called the greatest "blunder" of his life.  (Though now we think 
the cosmological constant is still relevant for other reasons, due to 
dark energy.)

> Clearly Einstein never saw that concept of an expanding spacetime is  
> necessary for GR to be correct.

No one said it did.  But it is certainly true that general relativity 
predicts dynamic cosmologies, and Einstein tried to shoe-horn it into a 
static version, instead of being able to triumphantly declare Hubble 
expansion as the first and foremost prediction of his new theory.

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The time traveler and conservation of mass and energy
bernardZ <BernardZ@[EM  2008-02-17 20:27:24 
Re: The time traveler and conservation of mass and energy
Crown-Horned Snorkack <  2008-02-17 03:25:11 
Re: The time traveler and conservation of mass and energy
bernardZ <BernardZ@[EM  2008-02-18 20:06:47 
Re: The time traveler and conservation of mass and energy
George W Harris <gharr  2008-02-17 09:36:27 
Re: The time traveler and conservation of mass and energy
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-17 13:19:14 
Re: The time traveler and conservation of mass and energy
bernardZ <BernardZ@[EM  2008-02-18 20:06:46 
Re: The time traveler and conservation of mass and energy
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-18 12:22:22 
Re: The time traveler and conservation of mass and energy
SolomonW <SolomonW@[EM  2008-02-19 23:51:52 
Re: The time traveler and conservation of mass and energy
Luke Campbell <lwcamp@  2008-02-17 15:36:03 
Re: The time traveler and conservation of mass and energy
Crown-Horned Snorkack <  2008-02-19 11:43:26 
Re: The time traveler and conservation of mass and energy
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-19 13:14:22 
Re: The time traveler and conservation of mass and energy
David Johnston <david@  2008-02-17 18:50:25 

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