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:WARNING:
contains huge amounts of ZPF and Squeezed Light and Quantum Fields
(mostly BS I fear =AC.=AC")
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After few hours of research i've decided to bring my question to the
group. IIRC, when a photon hits an electron of the electrosphere of an
atom, it gains energy and jumps to a more energetic sublevel (the
'excited' state). Due to instabilities, it releases back a photon and
then return to its original level (please let my layman terms to
pass). Ok, now the question: Lets assume for a sec that 'negative
energy' photons (anti-photons wouldn't be correct, since this have no
relation with anti-matter. ... "-photons" perhaps?) could exist and be
splited from it's positive energy counterparts (see ref. [1]). What
would happen to an electron in an atom hit by such a thing? I already
know about the dreadful consequences for the 2nd law, although
actually I do not understand then (why the overall energy isn't
conserved in the 'exotic laser' system??). The main idea is to
speculate the termodynamic consequences of an imaginary kind of
Freezing Dark Death Beam on
normal matter. The ref 1 (pages 7 and 8) says that the squeezed state
cannot be splitted in its positive/negative elements. But ref [2]
(pages 7 and 8 too) talks about some clever set of rotating mirrors
that could split the positive and the negative beams. I'm particularly
interested in the latter scenario. Is it feasible at least? What would
be the aforequestioned consequences of such "exotic laser" over normal
matter?
Tnxs in advance,
Filipe 'WarLord' Sobreira
[1] www.phy.duke. edu/~hsg/ 55/related- files/sciam- wormholes-
jan-2000. pdf
[2] http://www.earthtec
h.org/publicatio ns/davis_ STAIF_conference
_1.pdf
"Adtollite portas principes vestras
Et elevamini portae aeternali
Et introibit rex gloriae.
Quis est iste rex gloriae?"
(Psalm 23(24):7-8a)
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> Ok, now the question: Lets assume for a sec that 'negative energy'
> photons (anti-photons wouldn't be correct, since this have no relation
> with anti-matter. ... "-photons" perhaps?) could exist
There are two possibilities here.
Negative photons travel backwards in time or they travel forwards in
time and
carry negative momentum. (Holy tractor beams Batman!)
The backwards in time bit is strongly argued against by the non-
warning from
supernovas. In a supernova anything that possibly can happen is going
to
happen and no "backwards echos" of the events happen so it is not
possible to
travel backwards in time.
Negative momentum particles would be VERY noticeable in the particle
accelerator experiments and have not been noticed to date.
To avoid negative energy states completely I model virtual particles
as
particles with zero total energy existing at only one moment in time.
You would think that a particle that never has any momentum, energy or
existence over time wouldn't do anything, but thanks to quantum
fuzziness these
"time-space point particles" spread out over time and space in
interesting
ways. For example extremely low frequency virtual gravitons (one
divided by
many billion years) stretch from one end of the universe to the other.
Virtual particles can become real ones, as long as none of the
conservation
laws are violated. Nuclear decay happens when the right collection of
virtual
particles are standing in just the right place to replace the
available real
particles, which then become virtual particles at that time-space
point and so
don't extend any further into the future.
-HJC
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Hi Henry, and thanks for the reply. You seen to have a very grounded
opinion on the subject, and I feel sorry for the fact that i can't
discuss with you on the same basis. Unfortunaly I'm not a physicist
and I'm not familiar with many of the quantum physics fuzzy effects,
so i'm restricted to talk in my layman terms. One thing i've already
know is that no negative energy photons have been detected to date and
quantum physics prevents then to be formed without 'side effects'.
Assuming that *IF* negative energy photons could be somehow created/
isolated by some clever artificial gizmo, *AND* they travel forwards
in time, *THEN* what would be the effects of such thing on normal
matter? The exotic light could be reflected? The beam would actually
cool the target? Any computation could be made usind those '-photons'?
One of then you already stated:
1) They would carry negative momentum (tractor beam like effect?)
2) ...
*add all things you think relevant to this list*
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> Assuming that *IF* negative energy photons could be
> somehow created/isolated by some clever artificial gizmo, *AND* they
trave=
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> forwards in time, *THEN* what would be the effects of such thing on
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> matter? The exotic light could be reflected? The beam would actually
cool =
the
> target? Any computation could be made usind those '-photons'? One of
then =
you
> already stated:
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> 1) They would carry negative momentum (tractor beam like effect?)
They would never be reflected and they could not be absorbed by atoms
in the
ground state.
However if they were absorbed by an atom that either had an electron
in a
matching excited state or was jiggling AWAY from the negphoton due to
thermal
motion then the negphoton would absorb that state and kick the atom
towards the
source of the beam.
So it's a combination tractor/freeze ray, but any negphotons that fail
to find
an exact energy mass will just pass through solid matter. They won't
refract
because they don't have the ability to downgrade electron states in
the same
way that photons interact with matter.
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****this is a tread from [sfconsim-l], and i brought it here to have
an opinion from the members of this group, please leave your comments!
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Filipe 'WarLord' Sobreira
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