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Re: What would the end velocity be if...?

by Erik Max Francis <max@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 21, 2008 at 06:42 PM

finite guy wrote:
> On Feb 22, 10:11 am, Erik Max Francis <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> finite guy wrote:
>>> On Feb 22, 9:26 am, Erik Max Francis <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> finite guy wrote:
>>>>> Where is the 'boundary' between Newton and Einstein?
>>>>> What percentage of light 'speed'?
>>>> It depends on what accuracy level you're going for.  A good rule of
>>>> thumb is that 10% c is the point at which relativistic effects start
to
>>>> creep into the third significant figure.
>>> There are too many 'rules of thumb' used for such precise
>>> calculations...
>> As I said, it depends on what level of accuracy you're going for.  If
>> you want a more precise figure, you can solve for beta(gamma) yourself.
>>   It comes out to roughly 10% c for third-significant-figure effects,
>> 30% for second, and 70% for first.
> 
> Do you mean that the 'boundary' is subject to my decision...?

There is no boundary, just a continuous transition.  So when you ask 
what "the 'boundary'" is, the answer depends on what _you_ mean by the 
boundary.  To answer that, you have to specify quantitatively where you 
think that relativistic effects become significant, and you haven't done 
that.

However, even without that information I've given about the most 
complete answer possible, so I don't see what your point is.  Did you 
want your question answered, or did you want to try to argue?

> Roughly, is that a base-10 'third-significant-figure' or something
> more precise?   :-)

It is the standard meaning.  I'm suspecting you're just trying to be 
difficult at this point.

-- 
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 && http://www.alcyone.com/max/
  San Jose, CA, USA && 37 18 N 121 57 W && AIM, Y!M erikmaxfrancis
   There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.
    -- Albert Camus
 




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STJensen <Recreational  2008-02-18 23:14:01 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-18 23:31:17 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-21 15:03:20 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 15:53:20 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-21 16:23:50 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 15:58:01 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-21 16:26:35 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 16:02:35 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-21 16:29:18 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-21 17:17:55 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 16:32:36 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 17:04:27 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 17:22:48 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-21 18:42:59 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 18:56:12 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-21 19:10:57 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 18:57:24 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-21 19:23:54 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 18:59:40 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-21 19:25:54 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 19:53:46 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-21 20:25:33 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 20:10:36 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-21 20:30:04 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 22:13:28 
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Neilist <lattoralee@[E  2008-02-22 16:01:17 
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Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-02-25 04:17:22 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-24 19:22:20 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-25 03:35:50 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-24 20:36:46 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-25 18:58:41 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-25 18:02:18 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-25 18:04:05 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-26 00:04:07 
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