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Re: What would the end velocity be if...?

by Erik Max Francis <max@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 21, 2008 at 07:23 PM

finite guy wrote:
> On Feb 22, 10:13 am, Erik Max Francis <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> finite guy wrote:
>>> On Feb 22, 9:29 am, Erik Max Francis <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> finite guy wrote:
>>>>> Regarding rocket.html
>>>>> A photon is an 'object'.
>>>>> It's mass=0 but it has momentum...
>>>>> E=m*c^2 but a photon has energy...
>>>>> Is this not incongruent?
>>>> Well, photons can't undergo constant acceleration due to rocket
thrust,
>>>> so that's really relevant to the equations James was just talking
about.
>>>> The answer to your question is that there is no problem with photons
>>>> have no mass but having momentum and energy because the most general
>>>> equation in special relativity relating energy, momentum, and mass is
>>>>         E^2 = m^2 c^4 + p^2 c^2.
>>>> For a particle at rest (p = 0), this decays to E = m c^2, the more
>>>> familiar popularized Einstein equation.  For a massless particle like
a
>>>> photon (m = 0), this decays to E = p c, the equation relating a
luxon's
>>>> energy to its momentum.
>>> A particle is 'at rest' at delta time = 0...
>>> How do you successfully divide by zero?
>> No division by zero is taking place in anything I wrote, so I don't
know
>> what you're talking about.
>>
>> If you're asking how to consider instantaneously changing variables,
>> then the answer is differential calculus.
> 
> I'm asking you to consider how a photon moves from here to there.

You were asking about particles at rest, which can't include photons, so 
I don't know what you're asking.

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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 15:53:20 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-21 16:23:50 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 15:58:01 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 17:22:48 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-21 18:42:59 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 18:56:12 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-21 19:10:57 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 18:57:24 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-21 19:23:54 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 18:59:40 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-21 19:25:54 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 19:53:46 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-21 20:25:33 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 20:10:36 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-21 20:30:04 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-21 22:13:28 
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Neilist <lattoralee@[E  2008-02-22 16:01:17 
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Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-02-25 04:17:22 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-24 19:22:20 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-25 03:35:50 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-24 20:36:46 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-25 04:40:46 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-24 23:09:56 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-25 18:58:41 
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finite guy <adamlewis@  2008-02-25 18:02:18 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-26 00:04:07 
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