Re: What would the end velocity be if...?

On Feb 22, 1:30=A0pm, Erik Max Francis <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> finite guy wrote:
> > On Feb 22, 12:23 pm, Erik Max Francis <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> You were asking about particles at rest, which can't include photons,
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> >> I don't know what you're asking.
>
> > You mean that you don't know how to correctly include photons in your
> > concept.
>
> You asked about particles at rest, which can't be photons, so of course
> I didn't say anything about them. =A0I didn't mention fruit flies,
either,=

> because you didn't say anything about them.
>
> "My concept" is describing basic special relativistic equations (or
> basic mechanics, if you read my simpler response about calculus) which
> are uncontroversial outside of crankdom. =A0Hmm, am I starting to think
> we've crossed over to the other side by someone crossposting to sci.math
> ... ?
>
> > At delta time =3D zero, ALL things are static.
> > That is mathematically and conceptually obvious...
>
> Time flows, so that hardly matters. =A0If you freeze time, everything is
> static. =A0So what?
>
> > What is your commonly held misconception?
> > Perhaps it starts with thinking that the Pythagoras Theorem involves
> > 'squares'.
> > x^2 + y^2 =3D e^2 does not show Pythagoras 'Squares'.
> > They are areas, as you point out...
>
> I never said anything about the Pythagoras theorem and pointed no such
> thing out. =A0And I now see that this is a waste of time.
>
> At first I thought you were just being difficult. =A0Then I thought you
> were just really, really confused and clueless, but sincere. =A0Now I
see
> that you're just a sci.math-imported crank.
>
> > Perhaps this is the beginning of the problem.
> > Think so...?
>
> Think I'm done.
>
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I appreciate what you are trying to saying and I don't want to bicker.

You may not realise what you have said :-
"You asked about particles at rest, which CAN'T be photons..."
"If you freeze time, EVERYTHING is static..."

Why do you not include photons in "everything"?
Aren't they something...?
Aren't they also static at delta time =3D zero like everything... else?
Which one is it - static or not?
How far can a photon travel in zero time?

You didn't mention Pythagoras, I know.
But it is an underpinning of your thinking and mathematics and not
fully correct.
Please don't take this as 'crank' offensiveness -
your understanding is intelligent and educated but incongruent as
shown above.

The Pythagoras Theorem and Einstein E=3Dm*c^2 are quite simply
in the same form and therefore relevant to the discussion.
If you cannot discuss it; it is not because of the mathematics
but because of your belief system which does not account for the plane
of time.

Please clarify if photons are part of everything or not.

Thanks.