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Re: Negative Energy

by Luke Campbell <lwcamp@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 22, 2008 at 02:09 PM

On Feb 21, 6:09 pm, WarLord <warlordb...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> =3DPART 01=3D
>
> :WARNING:
> contains huge amounts of ZPF and Squeezed Light and Quantum Fields
> (mostly BS I fear =AC.=AC")
> ::
> After few hours of research i've decided to bring my question to the
> group. IIRC, when a photon hits an electron of the electrosphere of an
> atom, it gains energy and jumps to a more energetic sublevel (the
> 'excited' state). Due to instabilities, it releases back a photon and
> then return to its original level (please let my layman terms to
> pass). Ok, now the question: Lets assume for a sec that 'negative
> energy' photons (anti-photons wouldn't be correct, since this have no
> relation with anti-matter. ... "-photons" perhaps?) could exist and be
> splited from it's positive energy counterparts (see ref. [1]). What
> would happen to an electron in an atom hit by such a thing? I already
> know about the dreadful consequences for the 2nd law, although
> actually I do not understand then (why the overall energy isn't
> conserved in the 'exotic laser' system??). The main idea is to
> speculate the termodynamic consequences of an imaginary kind of
> Freezing Dark Death Beam on
> normal matter. The ref 1 (pages 7 and 8) says that the squeezed state
> cannot be splitted in its positive/negative elements. But ref [2]
> (pages 7 and 8 too) talks about some clever set of rotating mirrors
> that could split the positive and the negative beams. I'm particularly
> interested in the latter scenario. Is it feasible at least? What would
> be the aforequestioned consequences of such "exotic laser" over normal
> matter?

You are considering absorption, but two other physical processes must
also be available when absorption can happen.  These are spontaneous
emission and stimulated emission.  In this case, spontaneous emission
would mean the atom could jump to a higher energy state and emit a
negative energy photon without any outside interference.  Stimulated
emission means that if negative energy photons can interact with the
atom, they can make it transition to a higher energy state and emit
more negative energy photons.

If a beam of negative energy light struck cold matter (that is, most
of the atoms and molecules were in their ground state), it would
stimulate them to produce more negative energy light, raising the
energy of the matter and amplifying the light beam.  This would form
the gain medium of a negative energy laser.  Far from freezing matter,
it would end up heating the matter.

Of course, it would be difficult to keep matter in its ground state,
since it would spontaneously gain energy while radiating negative
energy light, then lose energy by radiating positive energy light.

Scattering (including reflection) of negative energy light would
transfer momentum to the matter from the light.  For incoherent
scattering, this momentum transfer will be in a random direction,
adding "disorder" (entropy) to the system and thus heating it.

Luke
 




 12 Posts in Topic:
Negative Energy
WarLord <warlordbcm1@[  2008-02-21 17:09:01 
Re: Negative Energy
Luke Campbell <lwcamp@  2008-02-22 14:09:45 
Re: Negative Energy
WarLord <warlordbcm1@[  2008-02-24 10:01:21 
Re: Negative Energy
Luke Campbell <lwcamp@  2008-02-24 11:05:41 
Re: Negative Energy
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-25 17:02:38 
Re: Negative Energy
Larry Caldwell <firstn  2008-02-28 19:14:13 
Re: Negative Energy
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-28 20:37:13 
Re: Negative Energy
Larry Caldwell <firstn  2008-02-29 06:52:18 
Re: Negative Energy
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-29 12:33:26 
Re: Negative Energy
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-02-29 23:47:05 
Re: Negative Energy
Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-03-03 08:40:56 
Re: Negative Energy
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-03-03 08:15:39 

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