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Re: Time Machines, FTL, and P=NP

by James Burns <burns.87@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 22, 2008 at 06:11 PM

George W Harris wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:44:40 -0500, James Burns <burns.87@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
> 
> :But then, without the wackiness to force consistency in highly
> :unlikely ways, it looks to me not too hard to set up a situation
> :where /no/ possible outcome is consistent. For my simple example,
> :just put the received signal through a NOT gate before sending
> :it back in time. What happens in that case? Hard reboot on the
> :universe?
> 
> 	Mechanical failure of the time machine, or some 
> other break in the chain.

But, under the assumption that a zero or a one completely characterizes
the message from the future, there are only two links in the chain.
-- What happens when I receive a zero? I send a one.
-- What happens when I receive a one? I send a zero.
There is no "What happens the 8,471,843,189,287,125th time
I send a one?" If it didn't crash on the first loop, it didn't crash.

And, by assumption, the machine was built to be extremely reliable.
I don't see how the machine could be expected to crash,
except by the sort of wackiness that the assumption I started with
was supposed to banish.

Jim Burns




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Time Machines, FTL, and P=NP
herwin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-19 16:54:58 
Re: Time Machines, FTL, and P=NP
James Burns <burns.87@  2008-02-19 12:23:14 
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herwin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-19 18:45:50 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-19 15:10:47 
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Crown-Horned Snorkack <  2008-02-20 06:40:36 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-20 10:19:31 
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James Burns <burns.87@  2008-02-20 12:50:05 
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cgoodin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-20 19:26:19 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-20 14:55:24 
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James Burns <burns.87@  2008-02-20 18:41:31 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-20 20:39:38 
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James Burns <burns.87@  2008-02-21 20:17:20 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-21 22:48:27 
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James Burns <burns.87@  2008-02-22 13:44:40 
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George W Harris <gharr  2008-02-22 17:45:38 
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James Burns <burns.87@  2008-02-22 18:11:09 
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George W Harris <gharr  2008-02-22 19:03:16 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-20 18:15:04 
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Jens Egon Nyborg <jens  2008-02-20 21:01:26 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-20 20:27:40 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-20 15:00:30 
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Crown-Horned Snorkack <  2008-02-20 11:12:12 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-20 15:12:53 
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Crown-Horned Snorkack <  2008-02-20 13:53:55 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-20 20:43:13 
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justinf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-21 16:09:56 
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Logan Kearsley <chrono  2008-02-22 15:02:55 
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"dwight.thieme@[EMAI  2008-02-22 20:42:43 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-23 01:19:27 

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