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Re: OT: Wildepad

by Luke Campbell <lwcamp@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 22, 2008 at 05:09 PM

On Feb 22, 5:28 pm, Wildepad <noreplies> wrote:

> As I've explained, that is precisely the method used in real world
> situations.
>
> Both Japanese agents going into Singapore and British agents going
> into Norway carried no proof of their identity, no proof of their
> mission, and were doing cold contacts, persuading people to house and
> feed them while they gathered intel, a much more costly and riskier
> proposition than simply spending a dollar.

I've been trying to stay out of this whole discussion, but this is
silly.  A secret agent who is captured and proven to be an enemy spy
is shot.  A time traveler who is proven to be from the future gets
meetings with the president and Oprah (a fate that many, though
possibly not all, consider better than death).  People in Norway knew
there was a current enemy occupation, and knew the British were
fighting their occupiers, a great many of them would have been willing
to risk their lives to drive out the enemy, and all things considered
a British secret agent is the sort of thing one might expect - it
would be risky to offer to help (it might be a Nazi undercover agent,
or someone might find out and inform on you and then you would get
shot) but those are the sorts of risks people take in wartime to
assist their country.  On the other hand, except for gullible crystal
worshiping new age types and schizophrenics with tin-foil hats, no one
believes in time travelers, especially those who don't show up with
cool time travel machines and a sonic screwdriver or two to show they
really are from Gallifrey.  We do, however, believe in wacky folks
(possibly those same schizophrenics) who believe they are from the
future, and con-men who are working some angle.  The expected return
(zero) nowhere near outweighs the risks (small) or the costs (our
valuable time).

Luke




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Someone Else <someone.  2008-02-12 20:28:44 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-13 03:20:52 
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Someone Else <someone.  2008-02-12 22:49:45 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-13 05:45:17 
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bealoid <signup@[EMAIL  2008-02-13 11:29:05 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-13 17:29:48 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-13 04:50:05 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-13 05:39:23 
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Someone Else <someone.  2008-02-13 01:46:22 
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fairwater@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-13 07:48:58 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-13 01:52:06 
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fairwater@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-13 16:02:12 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-13 15:49:54 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-13 17:33:00 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-13 16:04:18 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-14 18:28:39 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-14 15:19:25 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-15 01:15:27 
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bealoid <signup@[EMAIL  2008-02-13 11:27:25 
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IsaacKuo <mechdan@[EMA  2008-02-13 07:03:57 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-13 10:52:35 
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Someone Else <someone.  2008-02-13 14:05:58 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-13 14:27:56 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-13 16:04:52 
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Robert Martinu <invali  2008-02-13 18:13:26 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-13 16:01:28 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-13 19:25:36 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-14 18:47:06 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-14 17:55:24 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-15 00:12:09 
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bealoid <signup@[EMAIL  2008-02-15 14:11:30 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-15 17:33:55 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-17 02:08:32 
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Terry Austin <taustinc  2008-02-17 17:01:10 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-17 20:53:35 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-18 18:28:09 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-14 18:37:39 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-15 00:42:53 
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Jens Egon Nyborg <jens  2008-02-15 02:19:23 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-14 17:29:29 
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bealoid <signup@[EMAIL  2008-02-15 14:18:56 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-17 02:08:32 
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Robert Martinu <invali  2008-02-17 18:29:15 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-17 20:53:35 
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Luke Campbell <lwcamp@  2008-02-22 17:09:02 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-23 22:54:15 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-02-15 14:28:49 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-17 02:08:32 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-17 08:41:01 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-18 08:29:06 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-14 15:35:28 
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IsaacKuo <mechdan@[EMA  2008-02-18 08:16:53 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-18 19:44:13 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-22 09:09:31 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-22 18:28:07 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-02-13 18:40:34 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2008-02-14 08:54:15 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-14 08:29:33 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-02-14 20:00:50 
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Matthias Warkus <Warku  2008-02-15 17:06:18 
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Keith Morrison <keithm  2008-02-15 09:10:08 
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bealoid <signup@[EMAIL  2008-02-15 19:58:38 
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Russell Wallace <russe  2008-02-15 22:12:15 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-15 02:11:29 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-15 18:58:00 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-15 19:37:32 
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bealoid <signup@[EMAIL  2008-02-15 19:45:08 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-17 08:13:13 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-17 20:53:35 
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Luke Campbell <lwcamp@  2008-02-24 10:47:16 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-24 14:08:54 
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"Ash Wyllie" &l  2008-02-24 15:32:40 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-24 22:39:28 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-25 17:36:11 
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Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-02-26 02:49:39 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-26 09:27:40 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-26 17:43:56 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-26 15:56:16 
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Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-02-28 08:43:03 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-26 17:43:56 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-26 18:33:30 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-18 05:11:27 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-19 14:27:30 
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Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-02-19 13:23:09 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-20 13:32:02 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-20 19:55:53 
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Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-02-21 09:49:40 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-21 16:16:04 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-02-21 19:03:31 
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Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-02-22 08:40:49 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-22 18:28:07 
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af250@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-23 02:12:23 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-20 20:22:17 
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying  2008-02-20 21:35:10 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-21 16:04:40 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-02-22 04:41:58 
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Wildepad <noreplies>  2008-02-22 18:28:07 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-27 00:36:23 

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