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Re: Pi Day Exercise

by Erik Max Francis <max@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 15, 2008 at 04:22 PM

Jack Tingle wrote:

> Yesterday being pi-day (3/14 at approximately 1:59:27), I tried a little

> exercise. The most commonly used approximations for this nasty little 
> number are 3.1416, 22/7, and 355/113. Since pi is 3.14159... 3.1416 is a

> pretty good approximation, and only requires you to remember five 
> digits. 22/7 only needs 3 digits, while 355/113 needs a prodigious act 
> of memory on SIX whole digits [shocked muttering from audience].
> 
> Their relative merits, taking 3.14l6 as the baseline, has 22/7 with 172x

> the error of our baseline. Amazingly, hexadigital 355/113 has only 3.6% 
> of the error of the best 5 digit champion, 3.1416!

Actually, it shouldn't be all that surprising.  Consider that 3.1416 is 
just another way of writing 31416/10000.  In a sense, that is an 
arbitrary denominator, one chosen just because of our predilection for 
base 10 numbers.  When you instead choose a denominator designed to give 
you a good approximation -- even if you use fewer digits -- then chances 
are good you can find a better approximation than that arbitrary one. 
It's certainly true for pi (355/113), e (878/323), 2^(1/2) (816/577), 
3^(1/2) (989/571), etc.  All of these except for pi have multiple 
approximations (with denominators less than 1000) that are better than 
the five-digit decimal counterparts.

Consider also that some five-digit decimal approximations are actually 
quite _bad_ because of rounding (take, say, 3^(1/2)).

-- 
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   The surface of the Earth is the shore of the cosmic ocean.
    -- Carl Sagan
 




 23 Posts in Topic:
Pi Day Exercise
Jack Tingle <wjtingle@  2008-03-15 09:55:43 
Re: Pi Day Exercise
Luke Campbell <lwcamp@  2008-03-15 08:52:59 
Re: Pi Day Exercise
Ingo Siekmann <Ingo-Si  2008-03-15 22:50:14 
Re: Pi Day Exercise
Howard Brazee <howard@  2008-03-15 16:38:14 
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mcv <mcvmcv@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-16 19:09:05 
Re: Pi Day Exercise
wjtingle@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-15 12:39:57 
Re: Pi Day Exercise
Ingo Siekmann <Ingo-Si  2008-03-15 22:55:33 
Re: Pi Day Exercise
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-03-15 16:22:35 
Re: Pi Day Exercise
Jack Tingle <wjtingle@  2008-03-16 09:13:30 
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mcv <mcvmcv@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-16 19:17:38 
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Luke Campbell <lwcamp@  2008-03-15 16:30:24 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-03-15 18:50:08 
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"Mike Dworetsky"  2008-03-16 08:10:06 
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"Sheerluck" <  2008-03-16 20:37:59 
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David Mitchell <david@  2008-03-16 18:29:47 
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David Mitchell <david@  2008-03-16 18:32:10 
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Jens Kleimann <yatteri  2008-05-02 11:21:22 
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Dr J R Stockton <jrs@[  2008-03-16 23:15:44 
Re: Pi Day Exercise
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-03-16 20:42:16 
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Dr J R Stockton <jrs@[  2008-03-17 20:43:28 
Re: Pi Day Exercise
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-03-17 19:09:08 
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Dr J R Stockton <jrs@[  2008-03-18 20:24:39 
Re: Pi Day Exercise
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-03-18 22:03:44 

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