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Re: Return to No Stealth in Space

by jdnicoll@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Nicoll) Mar 18, 2008 at 05:21 PM

In article <47dfed4e$0$24120$4c368faf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Ben Crowell  <crowell07@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>James Nicoll wrote:
>> 
>> 	Let's say that the largest rockets are about the size
>> of an oil tanker. A quick back of the envelope calculation
>> suggests that a 500,000 tonne ****p with a mass ratio of 4 and
>> an acceration of 1 G [1] and an exhaust velocity of 5000 km/s
>> might have a peak power output of 5^16 Watts (plus whatever 
>> for ineffeciencies).
>> 
>> 	Could we spot this at 4.3 LY? Would we recognize it
>> for what it was?
>
>Cranking similar numbers from your scenario, I get 10^36 photons/s,
>and 10^3 photons/s in a 1 m2 telescope. The problem is that you've
>got a star there as well.

	Three stars, actually. That probably doesn't help (Even a
trip to AC 3 spends most the time it's actively accelerating within
about 10 AU of the origin and destination stars).

>
>This is all assuming visible light. If the thing emits copious
>radio or gammas or something, then I think it's a whole different
>ballgame.

	What's the naive calculation of the temperature of a 5000 km/s jet?
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Return to No Stealth in Space
jdnicoll@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-18 15:01:51 
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Ben Crowell <crowell07  2008-03-18 09:26:54 
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jdnicoll@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-18 17:21:46 
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Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-03-20 01:15:20 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-03-20 18:56:21 
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Wim Lewis <wiml@[EMAIL  2008-04-17 10:57:26 
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sigidunum@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-18 11:06:28 
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jdnicoll@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-18 18:58:45 
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Luke Campbell <lwcamp@  2008-03-18 15:09:54 
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Crown-Horned Snorkack <  2008-03-19 03:10:08 
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Luke Campbell <lwcamp@  2008-03-22 18:18:54 
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Crown-Horned Snorkack <  2008-03-24 11:48:10 
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Mike Williams <nospam@  2008-03-18 20:18:31 
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Simon Morden <simon.mo  2008-03-18 20:44:14 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-04-03 16:35:38 
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John Schilling <schill  2008-03-18 16:03:23 
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Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-03-20 01:07:14 
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sigidunum@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-20 14:26:15 
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jdnicoll@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-21 03:56:22 
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phoenix@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-22 19:49:25 
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sigidunum@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-21 01:31:06 
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jdnicoll@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-23 15:37:55 
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cgoodin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-02 20:35:53 
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Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-04-03 08:41:42 
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Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-04-03 16:44:39 
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Crown-Horned Snorkack <  2008-04-04 09:50:48 
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Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-04-07 09:22:43 
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"Autymn D. C."   2008-04-06 08:51:39 
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Crown-Horned Snorkack <  2008-04-07 09:53:39 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-21 04:29:16 
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Nyrath the nearly wise &l  2008-03-23 08:14:04 

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