Re: Re****ting Spam in Google Groups

Fred J. McCall <fmccall@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>:Fred J. McCall <fmccall@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>:> Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>:>:On 2008-03-28, Fred J  McCall <fmccall@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>:>:> Mark_Reichert@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>:>:>:And lunch time is....?
>:>:>
>:>:> For not using your boss's assets.
>:>:
>:>:Not everyone works for a boss who is the sole proprietor of
>:>:their company.  In any case, I'll be sure to remove myself from
>:>:the property every time I eat lunch in future.  Chairs,
>:>:lighting, tables, sink, garbage bin, ... all involve use of
>:>:assets that do not belong to me. Or I could realise that I am
>:>:generally permitted to use these assets for personal purposes
>:>:where it does not negatively affect the work being done.
>:>:
>:>:In either event, there is definitely a major security and
>:>:maintenance difference between installing dedicated software for
>:>:newsreading vs using a web interface via software already
>:>:installed and configured. 
>:>:
>:> 
>:> Both are using network access that your employer pays for.  This
>:> impacts everyone else.
>:> 
>:
>:At most business locations, it has literally no detectable effect. 
>:
> 
> If it's only one person.  Now multiply.

And? Still no detectable effect. Usenet is a text medium, son. Even with 
a relatively slow DSL connection, it it literally impossible to type fast 
enough to raise network traffic enough to detect, even with hundreds of 
employees participating.
> 
>:And at many, they don't care if employees do personal internetting 
>:on their lunch break. 
> 
> Have you asked them?

I *am* them, dumbass. I've seen the research that shows that letting 
employees do reasonable things online, like shopping, or checking their 
personal email, or hitting a forum or usenet, actually makes them more 
productive, as they have less incentive to take time off from work to 
handle personal issues (not to mention morale issues).
> 
>:Just beacuse you work for an asshole doesn't 
>:mean everyone does.
> 
> I don't recall saying anything at all about who I work for or what
> their policies are.

You don't need to. That you literally cannot conceive of working 
conditions that do not quality in my book as "working for an asshole" is 
evidence enough.
> 
> Just because you're a delusional innumerate moron doesn't mean
> everyone is.
> 
Just because you want to suck my dick doesn't mean I'm going to let you.

Smart employers don't give a **** what their employees do, so long as 
it's legal and reasonable, on their lunch hour, including posting to 
usenet. But smart companies *do* care about employees installing software 
on their desktops, and many (including me) aren't too thrilled about 
employees using Outlook or Outlook Express for *any* purpose, since it is 
bug-ridden ****. That means that usenet is OK, but not a usenet client, 
which leaves limited (and, frankly, broken) options like DejaGoogle.

Fact is, 'tard-boy, you're wrong, and obviously wrong, in a "completely, 
totally full of ****" sort of way. Get over it, son, and move on.

-- 
Terry Austin
"Dude, we're all your *****, but only Ken's wearing the juice."
                                           - tussock

"Just throw a rock, and what screams will probably be a moron."
                                           - Elvis (no, not that Elvis)