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Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American

by Aqua <aqua@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 31, 2008 at 11:51 AM

Brian Davis wrote:
> On Mar 30, 8:24 pm, "Dan Goodman" <dsg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> The April issue of Scientific American has an article on
>> astronomical including what light would be used for
>> photosynthesis on planets of various star-types...
> 
> Curious. What are they basing this on? Things like "take advantage of
> frequency where the tensity is the greatest" (green, for our Sun...
> oops, looks like evolution missed that)? It would seem so much depends
> on what first photoactive pigment gets fixed into the system that
> there's an awful lot of good old evolutionary luck in there. Not to
> mention there's going to be some frequencies that biology would have
> intense trouble tapping (it's tough to fix energy when the incoming
> energy is enough to break covalent bonds, for instance).

My vague memories of undergraduate biochemistry was that the first 
photosynthetic pigments did indeed primarily absorb yellow and green 
wavelengths - perhaps the same as those still used by purple 
photosynthetic bacteria.

Green chlorophyll was then a secondary pigment, to mop up the red and 
blue wavelengths the primary pigment wasn't getting - perhaps a niche 
organism.

All photosynthesis needs a reducing agent.  Purple photosynthetic 
bacteria use hydrogen sulphide or hydrogen or various other chemicals.

However, the most commonly available reducing agent is water.  But the 
water -> oxygen reaction requires more energy than can be provided by 
one (light wavelength) photon.  The "clever trick" in photosynthesis 
where the electron is "charged up" twice, using two photons, was 
developed in a cyanobacteria, using green chlorophyll.  I don't know if 
there was any particular advantage, or if that part was luck.

Cyanobacteria, by having access to so much water, quickly began 
outstripping other photosynthetic organisms, and pumping so much oxygen 
into the atmosphere they killed off many of the earlier organisms.

The photosynthesis in green plants is performed by chloroplasts, which 
are organelles descended from cyanobacteria.  It seems the water -> 
oxygen stunt was only pulled once.

So, yes, I had exactly the same thoughts Brian did, only with a bit more 
technical background.

Aqua
 




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Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
"Dan Goodman" &  2008-03-31 00:24:51 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-03-30 18:20:29 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-31 01:31:21 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Graham Woodland <gray@  2008-03-31 07:52:33 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Aqua <aqua@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-31 11:51:29 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
James A. Donald <james  2008-03-31 19:31:21 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
"Dan Goodman" &  2008-03-31 02:59:03 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
James A. Donald <james  2008-03-31 19:27:35 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-03-31 05:55:31 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
James A. Donald <james  2008-04-01 11:46:05 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-03-31 05:59:47 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
"Dan Goodman" &  2008-03-31 18:27:28 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-03-31 06:11:14 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
James A. Donald <james  2008-04-01 11:41:24 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-04-01 13:58:14 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-04-01 19:31:36 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-04-02 08:05:51 
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mkkuhner@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-17 15:21:02 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-04-17 09:23:46 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Graham Woodland <gray@  2008-04-17 18:47:18 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
"Mike Combs" &l  2008-04-17 12:21:03 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-04-01 05:14:19 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
James A. Donald <james  2008-04-02 14:48:43 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-04-17 13:06:45 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Paul Colquhoun <postma  2008-04-17 23:59:19 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
James A. Donald <james  2008-04-18 18:38:47 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-04-17 19:48:29 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
"Frank Scrooby"  2008-04-18 08:46:57 

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