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Re: Hillary needs to quit

by "Dano" <janeanddano@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 6, 2008 at 11:01 AM

"J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:ftbpun02ag9@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dano wrote:
> > "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> > news:ftb4s201861@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Dano wrote:
> >>> J. Clarke wrote:
> >>>> Dano wrote:
> >>>>> Mark Nobles wrote:
> >>>>>> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And he can't gut enough out of NASA to pay for his education
> >>>>>>> program
> >>>>>>> anyway.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> NASA budget:         $17.3 billion (FY 2008) [1]
> >>>>>> Education budget: $584   billion (FY 2007) (est., all levels
> >>>>>> combined) [2]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1. <http://www.nasa.gov/news/budget/FY2008.html>
> >>>>>>
> >
2.<http://www.ed.gov/about/overview/budget/budget08/summary/edlite-secti
> >>>>>> on1.html>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Mars plan is estimated to be around 100 billion.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The education initiative Obama is proposing is 18 billion.  You
> >>>>> do
> >>>>> the math.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/obamas_nasa_plan_gets_little_p.php
> >>>>
> >>>> If the current education budget is 584 billion and Obama is
> >>>> proposing
> >>>> to "fix" education with 3.6 billion a year on top of that, well
> >>>> _you_
> >>>> do the math.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>
> >>> You have to start somewhere don't you.  I remember times when 18
> >>> billion used to be considered *real* money.  Where did you pull
> >>> the
> >>> 3.6 billion number from?  Damn...we better get moving on this
> >>> education issue.
> >>
> >> 18 billion over 5 years is 3.6 billion a year.  Or is he talking 18
> >> billion a year?  In either case, it's a fart in a windstorm.
> >>
> >> 584 billion dollars a year seems to me like plenty of "start".  If
> >> that's not doing the job then 587.6 billion isn't going to do it.
> >> And neither is 602 billion.
> >>
> >> What are the schools supposed to be accompli****ng?  Has anybody
> >> ever
> >> clearly and unambiguously defined their mission?  No?  Well there's
> >> your _start_.
> >>
> >
> > You still conveniently refuse to explain how you pull 100 billion
> > from a
> > 17.3 billion dollar NASA budget.
> >
> > As for his school initiative, I thought it was pretty damn specific
> > what the money was to be spent on.  A major emphasis is to provide a
> > better start for students through early education, which is
> > primarily
> > what this ****tion of total funding is earmarked for.
> >
> > http://obama.3cdn.net/a8dfc36246b3dcc3cb_iem6bxpgh.pdf
> >
> > For your information he has been quite specific about his plans.
> > Nice try to obfuscate and attempt to oversimplify a very im****tant
> > issue.  One that holds far greater im****tance than travel to
> > Mars...as exotic and popular as that adventure may be.  Let's
> > educate
> > that next generation first.  If you think there are no problems with
> > our educational system, I would suggest you educate yourself about
> > how wew are doing compared to other countries.
>
> Your total lack of reading comprehension is quite adequate proof that
> education is broken.
>

Well there you go.  You agree finally.  I guess my poor pitiful public
school education has failed me.  I guess you better vote for Obama in
order
to save our country from semi-literates like myself eh?

> Now, would you care to try addressing to _something_ that was
> contained in the post to which you responded?
>

I have already done so.  You have steadfastly refused repeatedly to answer
a
very simple and key question.  If you don't realize that, then yhou are a
greater boffon than that chimp currently in the White House.  In any
case...which ever of us is the fool...we aren't going anywhere with this. 
I
won't bother you any longer.  I also won't bother to read anything else
you
have to say on this or anything else.
 




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Hillary needs to quit
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pv+usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-04-07 15:59:17 
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"J. Clarke" <  2008-04-05 12:24:41 
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"Dano" <jane  2008-04-07 13:36:45 
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scudetto_001@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-05 13:53:01 
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uclajacks@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-04-06 15:26:40 
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Vote Obama <Vote.Obama  2008-04-07 03:05:03 
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Steve <me@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-07 03:34:49 
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