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Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World

by John Schilling <schillin@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 14, 2008 at 07:35 PM

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:29:23 -0500, Tim Little
<tim@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>On 2008-04-13, Batroc Z  Leaper <hotfrog@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> This is just idiot junk science.  Ultra high energy cosmic rays far
more 
>> energetic than anything any human collider can produce have been
hitting 
>> the earth for billions of years.  We're still here.  

>Ultra high energy cosmic rays far more energetic than anything any
>human collider can produce couldn't possibly have less than Earth's
>escape velocity, either.  Any black hole produced in such a collision
>would have a velocity within a whisker of c and would go straight
>through the Earth without noticeably slowing.

>A micro black hole created in a collision from particles moving in
>opposite directions theoretically could be created moving slow enough
>to remain within Earth's vicinity.  So I don't think that particular
>argument is valid.

What does that have to do with the LHC?  The LHC collides particles
moving in *different* directions, but not *opposite* directions.  To
arrange true 180-degree opposed collisions would be a neat trick,
but an exceedingly difficult and utterly unnecessary one.

The actual collision energy and geometry of the LHC is such that the
CG of whatever comes out of a collison will be headed sideways at
just over half of lightspeed.  I'm pretty sure Earth's escape velocity
is rather less than that.  


>Of course even if it didn't decay immediately, the odds against it
>having such a tiny momentum in all three axes energy are astronomical.

That too.


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 11 Posts in Topic:
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Batroc Z. Leaper <hotf  2008-04-13 16:43:26 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Zombie Elvis <DELETEME  2008-04-14 00:47:22 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-04-14 02:29:23 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-04-14 10:45:40 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-04-14 22:11:03 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-04-14 11:09:26 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Dustbin <dustbin_addre  2008-04-15 00:48:57 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-04-14 21:46:11 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Dustbin <dustbin_addre  2008-04-15 15:05:52 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
John Schilling <schill  2008-04-14 19:35:02 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-04-14 22:12:56 

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