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Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)

by Leonard Erickson <shadow@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 15, 2008 at 12:37 AM

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:51:08 -0700 (PDT), Crown-Horned Snorkack
<chornedsnorkack@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>On 14 apr, 13:33, Leonard Erickson <sha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:45:07 GMT, Bryan Derksen
>>
>> This will be tedious but doable. Very tedious as the rock is likely to
>> be basalt and that stuff is pretty tough. Not like granite, but not
>> fun either.
>>
>Which is why natural lava caves are not so good idea. They are likely
>to be hard rock.
>
>Pick regolith instead. It seems to bear some resemblance to soft
>sandstone, tuff or loess. Slightly indurated, so that it will sup****t
>holes excavated in it, and cave ceilings can stand without props, but
>also soft and fragile enough that it crumbles under pickaxe blows.

It's a major hazard though in that it's really hard to keep it outside
(though the flyer won't pick any up coming in so that's a maybe. It's
not healthy for long term exposure. Hard on equipment too.

>> Looks like the best bet may be the old "buried quonset hut" with a
>> pressure tight liner.
>>
>> Framerwork pieces should be easy to carry. A bit harder to assemble
>> (note: erect sunshade so they don't expand too much, but reflect
>> enough light that they don't shrink too much either.)
>>
>> Attaching the corrugated tin (or whatever) cover panels won't be too
>> bad either. Burying it will be a pain. Probably best to find a small
>> "valley" or something so you don't have to excavate and *then* bury.
>> Just bury.
>>
>Do not bury at all. Just excavate.
>
>The im****tant part is leaving a roof which will sup****t its weight -
>and which will not be lifted out of place when the interior is
>pressurized.
>
>1 atm matches the weight of 60 m water in the feeble gravity of the
>Moon, or of 20 m solid rock, or considerably thicker layer of
>regolith.

Except you *have* to bury it under a minimum of several meters both
for thermal control and for radiation ****elding. If you don't, a solar
flare will ruin a lot of things and be fatal to anybody who is there
at the time (or than the flyer)
 




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cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Leonard Erickson <shad  2008-04-13 17:25:19 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Mike Williams <nospam@  2008-04-14 01:59:30 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Leonard Erickson <shad  2008-04-13 19:02:44 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
John Schilling <schill  2008-04-14 19:35:02 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Leonard Erickson <shad  2008-04-15 00:32:54 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-04-14 07:45:07 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Leonard Erickson <shad  2008-04-14 03:33:17 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-04-14 16:38:28 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-04-14 14:43:12 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Steve Hix <sehix@[EMAI  2008-04-14 17:39:05 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Leonard Erickson <shad  2008-04-15 00:52:38 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Steve Hix <sehix@[EMAI  2008-04-14 11:34:24 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Leonard Erickson <shad  2008-04-15 01:01:49 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Crown-Horned Snorkack <  2008-04-14 07:51:08 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Leonard Erickson <shad  2008-04-15 00:37:44 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-04-15 17:23:27 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Leonard Erickson <shad  2008-04-15 21:23:25 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Steve Hix <sehix@[EMAI  2008-04-14 11:24:44 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Crown-Horned Snorkack <  2008-04-14 11:31:04 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-04-14 21:23:05 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Leonard Erickson <shad  2008-04-15 00:55:20 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-04-15 17:31:23 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Leonard Erickson <shad  2008-04-15 21:25:32 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Crown-Horned Snorkack <  2008-04-15 09:45:58 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-04-15 18:40:11 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Crown-Horned Snorkack <  2008-04-15 09:48:00 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-04-15 18:31:19 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-04-15 16:40:59 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Leonard Erickson <shad  2008-04-15 21:31:44 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Crown-Horned Snorkack <  2008-04-16 06:11:17 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-04-16 11:12:03 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-14 18:44:17 
Re: cheap lunar gear & base (spin-off of superhero flight)
Steve Hix <sehix@[EMAI  2008-04-14 17:34:34 

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