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Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World

by Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 15, 2008 at 08:13 AM

On 2008-04-15, Eivind Kjorstad <eivindorama@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> True. But I was wondering about the growth-curve.

I'd guess (at least initially) to first order the average growth rate
would be pro****tional to event horizon area, which is pro****tional to
square of mass.  So the growth curve for small masses should start off
something like  k / (T0 - T)  for some constant k.

If so, then I'd guess k is probably on the order of 10^40 kg^-1 s^-1.


> How long would it take for a hole of this type orbiting inside the
> sun to grow from the size where it swallows 1g/day and until it eats
> the entire sun ?

Assuming the model above (probably not the best), at that point it
would have a mass of about 10^16 kg (Schwarzschild radius about
10^-11 m) and take on the order of 10^16 years.


> How long from we-detect-hole-inside-sun and to sun-disappears ? Years ? 
> Months ? Weeks ? Days ? Hours ?

At a million tonnes per second going into the hole, the black hole
might have about Earth's mass, and take tens of millions of years to
double.  At that point the mass-energy going into the hole would be
comparable to the Sun's normal power output, so it should have
noticeable effects.

Or then again, my time (which is really a complete guess) could be out
by a factor of a million.


- Tim
 




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Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Luke Campbell <lwcamp@  2008-04-14 10:06:30 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-04-14 22:04:38 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Batroc Z. Leaper <hotf  2008-04-14 21:21:11 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-04-15 02:47:31 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Batroc Z. Leaper <hotf  2008-04-15 21:53:16 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-04-16 05:42:34 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Batroc Z. Leaper <hotf  2008-04-16 07:16:49 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-04-16 15:48:05 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Batroc Z. Leaper <hotf  2008-04-16 19:55:24 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-04-17 01:41:00 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Batroc Z. Leaper <hotf  2008-04-20 00:40:16 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-04-20 01:04:18 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Larry Caldwell <firstn  2008-04-20 19:12:29 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-04-20 20:02:28 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-04-15 04:53:22 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-04-15 03:00:32 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-04-15 10:56:18 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-04-15 08:13:46 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-04-16 08:17:49 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-04-16 01:50:03 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
af250@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-16 07:05:57 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-04-16 08:19:18 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-04-15 10:07:48 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-04-15 17:39:22 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
af250@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-15 20:58:09 

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