Talk About Network

Google


Register and Login
Nick
Password
Register create new account Sign up is FREE and you can post replies, new topics, bookmark posts and more!
Recover lost password


Science Fiction > Science > Re: Colors of a...
Latest [ Topics | Posts ] Archive Post A New Topic Post a Reply
<< Topic < Post Post 26 of 28 Topic 3418 of 3639
Post > Topic >>

Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American

by James A. Donald <jamesd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 18, 2008 at 06:38 PM

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:06:45 -0700 (PDT), DougL 
> Most times I don't worry about Grey Goo. It typically violates
> conservation of energy big time (often along with just about every
> other physical law that would be expected to apply to such stuff).

All living cells have a rather convoluted design, in which various
obvious and major improvements are possible.  Suppose someone goes
ahead and makes these major improvements - starting with
microorganisms, of course, since that is a lot easier and cheaper.
Perhaps he intends to introduce these improvements in people. The
microorganisms get loose.

We are always competing with microorganisms - they rot our food, cause
diseases, and so forth.  Better microorganisms, without better people,
could be a serious problem.

"Grey goo", however, assumes very radical improvements - that instead
of ribosomes, these micro organisms have systems that give
substantially finer control of matter, and that these micro organisms
cut loose and evolve.  These new microrganisms would likely take over
the biosphere in the way same way that protein based organisms
obliterated RNA based organisms.

The simplest way of keeping control of self replicating systems is to
make sure that they depend on foodstuffs not found in nature to
replicate:  dimethyl ether and trimethylamine are probably good, until
some bright fellow decides to program these things to take apart
garbage.

Another tactic is to design them so that they rely on external data to
reproduce, but this tactic looks disturbingly fragile against
mutation.


--
  ----------------------
We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because 
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this 
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.

http://www.jim.com/
     James A. Donald
 




 28 Posts in Topic:
Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
"Dan Goodman" &  2008-03-31 00:24:51 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-03-30 18:20:29 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
djheydt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-31 01:31:21 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Graham Woodland <gray@  2008-03-31 07:52:33 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Aqua <aqua@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-31 11:51:29 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
James A. Donald <james  2008-03-31 19:31:21 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
"Dan Goodman" &  2008-03-31 02:59:03 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
James A. Donald <james  2008-03-31 19:27:35 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-03-31 05:55:31 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
James A. Donald <james  2008-04-01 11:46:05 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-03-31 05:59:47 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
"Dan Goodman" &  2008-03-31 18:27:28 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-03-31 06:11:14 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
James A. Donald <james  2008-04-01 11:41:24 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-04-01 13:58:14 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Bryan Derksen <bryan.d  2008-04-01 19:31:36 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Eivind Kjorstad <eivin  2008-04-02 08:05:51 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
mkkuhner@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-17 15:21:02 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-04-17 09:23:46 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Graham Woodland <gray@  2008-04-17 18:47:18 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
"Mike Combs" &l  2008-04-17 12:21:03 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-04-01 05:14:19 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
James A. Donald <james  2008-04-02 14:48:43 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-04-17 13:06:45 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Paul Colquhoun <postma  2008-04-17 23:59:19 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
James A. Donald <james  2008-04-18 18:38:47 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-04-17 19:48:29 
Re: Colors of alien plants -- Scientific American
"Frank Scrooby"  2008-04-18 08:46:57 

Post A Reply:
  Go here to Signup

AddThis Feed Button


About - Advertising - Contact - Frequently Asked Questions - Privacy Policy - Terms of Use - Signup

Contact
tan13V112 Thu Jul 24 16:30:20 CDT 2008.