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Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World

by Erik Max Francis <max@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 20, 2008 at 11:26 PM

Luke Campbell wrote:

> On Apr 20, 8:02 pm, Erik Max Francis <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
>> Not that CPT invariance means quite what you think it means anyway,
>> evidently, since violations of CPT invariance do _not_ automatically
>> present violations of charge conservation.
> 
> I'll go even farther - after all physical processes are complete, the
> net charge of the reactants _is_ automatically still the same as that
> of the products.  My best guess is that Caldwell thinks that charge
> conjugation symmetry is a physical process.  My brain may be a bit
> addled by flu right now, but I do not believe this to be so - you
> can't just magically do something to turn a particle into an
> antiparticle.  All charge conjugation symmetry says is that all the
> physics is the same if all the particles in an interaction are
> replaced by their antiparticles.  While charge conjugation symmetry is
> known to be violated, this does not mean conservation of electric
> charge is violated.

Your flu (my sympathies) has not bested you; you're absolutely right. 
Violations of CP invariance (for instance) mean that some subatomic 
particles (such as the neutral kaon) don't decay at the rate one might 
otherwise expect.  It has jack squat to do with actual conservation law 
violations.

There _are_ ways of turning particles into their antiparticle, but they 
involve (like everything else would) reactions that would result in 
reactants and products, the sum total of whose changes would (wait for 
it) not violate any of the conservation laws we're talking about.  But 
those are procedural issues which you, of course, know about, so I'm not 
telling you anything new.  The _rates_ of those reactions can be 
affected in the real world by violations of CPT symmetry (and all the 
lesser versions), which can lead to different equilibria, but still, 
nothing here actually results in a violation of physical law.

I only mentioned his misinterpretation of CPT invariance as a side 
point, and didn't dig in with both heels, as it was only one of many 
errors, and the others were easy enough to state on their own.  Any one 
of them, as I'm sure you know, renders his suggestion dead in the water.

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Erik Max Francis && max@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   There is no present or future; only the past, happening over and over
    again, now. -- Eugene O'Neill
 




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Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Luke Campbell <lwcamp@  2008-04-20 22:42:24 
Re: CERN Atom Smasher May End the World
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-04-20 23:26:30 

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