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Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?

by Erik Max Francis <max@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 26, 2008 at 01:17 PM

Brian Davis wrote:

> This came up in a different newsgroup, and upon trying to answer it I
> blew it badly. I’m not sure the original group really cares, but folks
> here might, and it’s kind of interesting to me, so…
> 
> Let’s say you have a person (named, let’s say, “Callie”) standing in
> the middle of a large airlock (10 [m] long by 3[m] by 3[m]). The bad
> girl opens the large doors at the end, “blowing the lock” (it starts
> at 1 [Atm]). What happens to the helpless heroine? I understand
> decompression, but I’m trying to figure out how fast (if at all) they
> “exit” the airlock. For a first cut, I assumed the doors instantly
> crack open 10 [cm] along their entire 3 [m] length, forming a “breach”
> with an area of 0.3 [m^2] through which the air starts rushing at
> roughly Mach 1 (I know it would be less, but ballpark). Back by
> Callie, the cross-sectional area is about 9 [m^2], so conservation of
> mass (assuming uniform density) says the airspeed by her is a gusty
> 11.1 [m/s]… which is pretty much trivial. I assumed she is accelerated
> “breachward” by the stagnation pressure of this flow against the front
> of her body (frontal surface area 0.36 [m^2, mass of 45 [kg]), but the
> result is a really trivial acceleration. Running it through Excel (to
> keep track of the rapid density/pressure drop, which reduces the
> stagnation pressure all the more), I get her hitting the breach after
> a little over 8.5 [sec], and the leisurely pace of about 0.67 [m/s] (a
> slow walk). She really only accelerates for the first couple seconds,
> after that the lock is at such a low pressure that the remaining
> “wind” just doesn’t have enough force to do anything.
> 
> OK, so what did I screw up?

Nothing, I'd say.  The ability for explosive decompression to push 
people around is usually exaggerated.  Your results sound qualitatively 
like I'd expect -- it'd budge her a little at first but very rapidly the 
ambient air pressure would drop to the point that it wouldn't have much 
of an effect.

-- 
Erik Max Francis && max@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 && http://www.alcyone.com/max/
  San Jose, CA, USA && 37 18 N 121 57 W && AIM, Y!M erikmaxfrancis
   Because a bullet has no name / And sees no face
    -- Skee-Lo




 41 Posts in Topic:
Explosive decompression - how fast?
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-04-25 09:16:59 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
af250@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-25 17:56:48 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-04-25 20:01:36 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Leonard Erickson <shad  2008-04-25 23:56:33 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-04-26 03:26:51 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Leonard Erickson <shad  2008-04-26 05:48:36 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Dr J R Stockton <jrs@[  2008-04-26 16:37:27 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-04-26 20:06:22 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
John Schilling <schill  2008-04-27 08:13:11 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-04-26 13:17:09 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Russell Wallace <russe  2008-04-26 23:20:51 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Erik Max Francis <max@  2008-04-26 16:28:24 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-04-26 20:24:22 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-26 23:16:32 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-04-26 18:36:36 
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throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-27 00:39:48 
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Robert Martinu <invali  2008-04-27 03:46:19 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-04-26 23:29:07 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-04-26 23:46:30 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-04-27 00:57:42 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-27 06:25:55 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Robert Martinu <invali  2008-04-27 13:03:03 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-04-27 06:38:32 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-04-27 07:11:34 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-04-27 11:20:54 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-04-27 10:30:53 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-04-27 16:19:00 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-04-28 02:58:30 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-04-28 09:46:45 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-04-29 01:03:45 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-27 21:43:32 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-04-30 07:44:20 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
"Carey Sublette"  2008-05-02 07:44:49 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
"Mike Combs" &l  2008-05-02 12:58:37 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
WaltBJ <waltbj01@[EMAI  2008-05-06 20:04:54 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-05-07 06:00:30 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
WaltBJ <waltbj01@[EMAI  2008-05-07 20:01:00 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-05-08 05:51:18 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
WaltBJ <waltbj01@[EMAI  2008-05-10 20:06:14 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
WaltBJ <waltbj01@[EMAI  2008-05-10 20:12:09 
Re: Explosive decompression - how fast?
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-05-12 08:17:03 

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