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Re: Non-constant time rate

by Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 3, 2008 at 02:31 AM

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Tim Little wrote:
> On 2008-04-30, Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> - you cannot compare objects (clocks, etc.) from within and without
>> the zone because of handwaving reasons. You have to work within the
>> zone.
>=20
> This means that the zone needs to be totally isolated.  In which case,
> if you're born in the zone, you'll never have contact with anyone
> outside it and vice-versa.  In fact it's debatable to what extent you
> could think of them being in the same universe.

Yes, this is what I was aiming at.

> Obviously you can't even look at tidal effects, since that would be
> comparing objects within the zone to the Sun and Moon outside it, and
> you've stipulated that such a thing can't be done.
>=20
> So no, I don't see any way to compare time rates between universes
> that are totally isolated.  I don't even know in what sense a relative
> time rate is even meaningful in such a context.

True. But what if you kind of presume some things as absolute, for=20
example that an object in motion will cross the same distance in the=20
same time (Newton's 1st)? Could you, with the anomalies proposed and=20
with sufficiently precise measurements, find out that it isn't always so?=



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Non-constant time rate
Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EM  2008-04-30 17:41:02 
Re: Non-constant time rate
Brian Davis <brdavis@[  2008-04-30 10:01:40 
Re: Non-constant time rate
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-30 16:42:38 
Re: Non-constant time rate
Robert Martinu <invali  2008-04-30 19:35:35 
Re: Non-constant time rate
Raghar <RagharA2@[EMAI  2008-04-30 11:58:21 
Re: Non-constant time rate
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-04-30 22:48:04 
Re: Non-constant time rate
Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EM  2008-05-03 02:31:03 
Re: Non-constant time rate
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-03 00:51:01 
Re: Non-constant time rate
Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EM  2008-05-06 00:57:20 
Re: Non-constant time rate
"nuny@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-02 21:40:39 
Re: Non-constant time rate
Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-05-03 01:33:45 
Re: Non-constant time rate
"nuny@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-03 13:22:41 
Re: Non-constant time rate
Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EM  2008-05-06 00:36:41 
Re: Non-constant time rate
"nuny@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-05 17:10:37 
Re: Non-constant time rate
Ivan Voras <ivoras@[EM  2008-05-08 13:32:25 
Re: Non-constant time rate
"nuny@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-08 12:44:56 
Re: Non-constant time rate
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-05 22:51:30 
Re: Non-constant time rate
throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-06 00:38:23 

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