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Re: Hard Sci-fi?

by throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wayne Throop) May 4, 2008 at 06:07 AM

: Tue Sorensen <sorensonian@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
: Magic is something
: supernatural: something removed from a realm of causality.

That doesn't seem to be a very good characterization of "magic" to me.
I mean, Harry potter waves his wand here, an effect happens there.
Cause and effect.  Reliable as clockwork, pretty much, once he's trained
to do it properly.


Wayne Throop   throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   http://sheol.org/throopw




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 ilya2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 11:46:19 
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 Tue Sorensen <sorenson  2008-05-08 22:26:45 
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 Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-05-09 01:05:34 
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 Niels <name@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 10:33:58 
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 throopw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-11 19:21:00 
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